How do you foul someone without making contact?
Schezney didn't touch him IMO. Gibbs might have but again I do not think it was a penalty and I definately don't think Gibbs contact made him drop to the floor.
This thread is a fudging embarrassment. Bale dived. End of. How can there be any debate about this? Why do you think there are no neutrals who are even debating the issue? In real time, it looked like a foul, because it seems Bale has perfected the art of diving. With replays, you can clearly see it wasn't.
THIS IS CHEATING.
I don't know what's a bigger embarrassment, the fact that one of our star players keeps doing this, or that there are so many of you who keep defending him for it. It's disgusting. Our first goal yesterday was a lucky deflection but I was jumping around the room with joy. I hardly celebrated the second (didn't actually want to but going up 2-0 against Arsenal was too much to hold in), because that shouldn't have been a goal.
Some of you are saying that it's just part of the game and that everyone does it. That's the complete wrong attitude to take, you should be disgusted with anyone that does it, Spurs player or not, as that's the only way we'll stamp it out. But the worst of you are those who can't (or won't) even see that it was a blatant dive. I always thought Spurs fans were better than that, but I guess not.
You're wrong.
Wrong about neutrals. Wrong about it not being a foul. I was unsure up until half time when Norwegian TV showed the images again, clearly showing that Gibbs touched Bale's heel. Everyone in the studio agreed. You're right that there shouldn't be a debate though. It was a foul.
This thread is a fudging embarrassment. Bale dived. End of. How can there be any debate about this? Why do you think there are no neutrals who are even debating the issue? In real time, it looked like a foul, because it seems Bale has perfected the art of diving. With replays, you can clearly see it wasn't.
THIS IS CHEATING.
I don't know what's a bigger embarrassment, the fact that one of our star players keeps doing this, or that there are so many of you who keep defending him for it. It's disgusting. Our first goal yesterday was a lucky deflection but I was jumping around the room with joy. I hardly celebrated the second (didn't actually want to but going up 2-0 against Arsenal was too much to hold in), because that shouldn't have been a goal.
Some of you are saying that it's just part of the game and that everyone does it. That's the complete wrong attitude to take, you should be disgusted with anyone that does it, Spurs player or not, as that's the only way we'll stamp it out. But the worst of you are those who can't (or won't) even see that it was a blatant dive. I always thought Spurs fans were better than that, but I guess not.
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I think there's some contact there from Gibbs, not much, but most players would go down in the box even with minimal contact.
intent, making a player adjust to avoid injury and stopping their advantage. happens all the time
but bale was touched of this i have no doubt after looking at a recording several times in slowed slow motion. its incredible that hardly anyone has seen it
Mate, we all hate Bale's diving, which he needs to cut out - but when he runs at full speed, gets a kick at his heel, which causes him to lose his balance and fall to the ground, that's a foul.
this is like watching a faulty towers classic....you yelling bloody murder and yet when you turn round no crime has been committed.
i'll tell you what's minorly irritating, you on your high horse like football is perfect. it isnt, people dive, and its bad when it happens. if you are THAT disgusted by it, lead a campaign to sell bale. i'd say i dareyou to do that but i dont think you have that moral superiority turned on quite high enough to stand your ground on something like that
and bale was touched. this isnt UFC......you make contact in the box then the player is going to most likely drop...two players made contact with bale and not the ball. either you havent looked hard enough at the replay or your just knocking one out the chamber every time you feel the need to point out the evil that is a spurs supporters backing their own player in a grey area
I have no problems with Bale roaming into the centre, or roaming across field or even swapping positions with the right sided midfielder for a while.
But he has to also roam wide left at times. At the moment he's spending very little time wide left, that diminishes the value of two of his best abilities, running at people and crossing.
Extreme movements is the key for me, especially when faced with teams parking the bus. All the way wide left, hugging the touchline, pushing into the centre even cross field, drop deep and allow Ekotto to push on beyond him and then join the attack later, push way up close to the offside line. Lately his area of operation has been too small and too narrow.
He has to stay on the left and only change wings to the right if we have lennon on who can hug the line on the left, we need wingers because our replacements like krancjar are not good enough.
Bale is no where near as good as he likes to think he is, he really needs to work on his right foot.