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Financial Fair Play

SteveAWOL said:
http://www.skysports.com/football/n...t-featuring-17-premier-league-clubs-in-top-30



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I was reading an article on this list basically talking about the power of the Premier League and London in particular. But they noted it would be hard to break into the top 10 for Tottenham or West Ham. But looking at that list we are 50million behind Juventus. With the increase in TV revenue from next season. And in the future our increased capacity. It looks possible for us to get past them to 10th.
 
Sandman said:
I was reading an article on this list basically talking about the power of the Premier League and London in particular. But they noted it would be hard to break into the top 10 for Tottenham or West Ham. But looking at that list we are 50million behind Juventus. With the increase in TV revenue from next season. And in the future our increased capacity. It looks possible for us to get past them to 10th.
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I think with the new stadium and Chelsea getting relegated, top ten is doable.
 
SteveAWOL said:
http://www.skysports.com/football/n...t-featuring-17-premier-league-clubs-in-top-30



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That table is messed up. I was trying to compare the growth of various teams and was puzzled by our apparent stability and Liverpool's growth.

As far as I can tell the 2013-14 number for Spurs (190) is the 2013-14 revenue of the 12th placed team (AC Milan) converted at the current Euro rate. Sky didn't account for the changed position in the table when doing their conversions.

The Liverpool number in 2013-14 is the euro revenue converted to pounds at the current exchange rate. The comparable figure for Spurs is £164, which gives us growth of 19% compared to Liverpool's growth of 28%. While a good portion of that growth is due to the exchange rate change, it does show that Liverpool are pulling away on the commercial revenues. Their fans may not be happy with their owners but that have closed the gap on Chelsea and Arsenal quite impressively given their football.

Edit: using a 2013-14 exchange rate to try and compare actual revenue growth, Liverpool grew almost twice as fast as us (16.5% vs 8.7% ). I used numbers from the BBC report, which used appropriate exchange rates to convert the Euro figures published by Deloitte (table on p6).
 
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Fingers crossed that the Economist got their figures correct...

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And our new stadium narrows the matchday revenue gap...

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In the 20 years Deloitte have been doing this, there are a few constants and a few changes. Below is the first survey for the 1996-97 season.

We are one of the ever-presents, although never making the top ten. Roma also share this distinction, while the other ever-presents have spent most of the time in the top ten: Real, Barcelona, Juve, Milan, Inter, Bayern, United, Liverpool and Arsenal. Chelsea marginally missed out the first year and Saudi Sportswashing Machine dropped out the year they dropped to the Championship.

PSG made the first few and then disappeared before their recent reemergence. City were newcomers in 2003-04 and have slowly risen. Atletico was in the first list and then disappeared (I'm not sure why). The big three Italian clubs have slipped down the rankings.

The world's financial top 20 clubs in full

Worth is in £000s, after the 1996-97 season.
  1. Manchester United - England - 87,939
  2. Barcelona - Spain - 58,862
  3. Real Madrid - Spain - 55,659
  4. Juventus - Italy - 53,223
  5. Bayern Munich - Germany - 51, 619
  6. Milan - Italy - 47,480
  7. Borussia Dortmund - Germany - 42,199
  8. Saudi Sportswashing Machine - England - 41,134
  9. Liverpool - England - 39,153
  10. Internazionale - Italy - 39,071
  11. Flamengo - Brazil - 37,422
  12. Atletico Madrid - Spain - 32,382
  13. Paris St Germain - France - 31,967
  14. Rangers - Scotland - 31,644
  15. Roma - Italy - 28,215
  16. Tottenham Hotspur - England - 27,874
  17. Ajax - Netherlands - 27,804
  18. Parma - Italy - 27,756
  19. Lazio - Italy - 27,332
  20. Arsenal - England - 27,158
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P.D. said:
How do PSG have such high commercial revenues?
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Totally market based investments made by companies related to their Qatari owners. There is no reason to think this is less proper than their appointment of the younger Platini to a lucrative post. UEFA, led by Platini senior, have approved the deals.
 
Saw a news story about City potentially offering Messi 800k a week, I know that story has come up ever since Mansour came along for a ego boost and I doubt it will happen but thought this thread would be worth bumping.

Last I heard about FFP was that they were "loosening" the rules, and lets not mess about, UEFA basically decided to protect the modern day football monopoly's by doing this...

Does anyone know whether FFP is even still a thing? Or, as I always thought it would, has it's sole accomplishment been the suspension of relatively minor clubs whilst the main culprits have spent what ever the hell they feel like?

Don't see it mentioned as so much as a unlikely challenge to the soulless teams spending so I'm assuming it has been scrapped?
 
Craig_J said:
Saw a news story about City potentially offering Messi 800k a week, I know that story has come up ever since Mansour came along for a ego boost and I doubt it will happen but thought this thread would be worth bumping.

Last I heard about FFP was that they were "loosening" the rules, and lets not mess about, UEFA basically decided to protect the modern day football monopoly's by doing this...

Does anyone know whether FFP is even still a thing? Or, as I always thought it would, has it's sole accomplishment been the suspension of relatively minor clubs whilst the main culprits have spent what ever the hell they feel like?

Don't see it mentioned as so much as a unlikely challenge to the soulless teams spending so I'm assuming it has been scrapped?
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You know what day it is today right? ;)
 
ManU are top of Deloitte' Football Money League, for the first time in 11 years, as they become the first club to make over half a £billion in one year.

Tottenham remain in 12th spot with revenues up, from £196m, to £209m.

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