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Fernando Llorente

Rune said:
Early days for Llorente but he seems to slow for our style. Never at the right place at the right time. Janssen is quicker and holds the ball better.
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Llorente is stronger and better in the air. Which set of attributes do you prefer?

Llorente worked against Madrid. He will work in games like that, and once he settles in he'll probably be better still.

Give our signings time. Most of them cannot slot in immediately as easily as Davinson did (and in Davinson's case, he had the Ajax connection to draw on, which undoubtedly made it easier for him).
 
I don't believe it's Llorente that's the problem - more the rest of the team don't seem able to adapt to his strengths when he's on the pitch!! He's clearly not a great runner off the ball, but his strengths are more holding play up and allowing the likes of Son and Alli to get up and support or pick up the knock downs / second ball. T do this however, we need to target him in the box aerially, something we seem incapable of doing when he's on.
 
Ade's folks are ok really said:
I don't believe it's Llorente that's the problem - more the rest of the team don't seem able to adapt to his strengths when he's on the pitch!! He's clearly not a great runner off the ball, but his strengths are more holding play up and allowing the likes of Son and Alli to get up and support or pick up the knock downs / second ball. T do this however, we need to target him in the box aerially, something we seem incapable of doing when he's on.
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Totally agree with this. I am getting very frustrated that when Llorente is playing we continually fail to get crosses into the box for him to attack. On Saturday there was only one attempt to cross from wide (from Toby I think) and this cross failed to get past the first man. If Llorente is going to play we must play to his ability to win the ball in the air and adapt our play.

It was interesting at Swansea last year that Llorente only started scoring freely once Tom Carroll moved to Swansea and was swinging in early crosses from the left wing.
 
Abbeyspur said:
Totally agree with this. I am getting very frustrated that when Llorente is playing we continually fail to get crosses into the box for him to attack. On Saturday there was only one attempt to cross from wide (from Toby I think) and this cross failed to get past the first man. If Llorente is going to play we must play to his ability to win the ball in the air and adapt our play.

It was interesting at Swansea last year that Llorente only started scoring freely once Tom Carroll moved to Swansea and was swinging in early crosses from the left wing.
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He was, as 'they' say, scoring for fun (and money).
 
Abbeyspur said:
Totally agree with this. I am getting very frustrated that when Llorente is playing we continually fail to get crosses into the box for him to attack. On Saturday there was only one attempt to cross from wide (from Toby I think) and this cross failed to get past the first man. If Llorente is going to play we must play to his ability to win the ball in the air and adapt our play.

It was interesting at Swansea last year that Llorente only started scoring freely once Tom Carroll moved to Swansea and was swinging in early crosses from the left wing.
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Cheeky bid?
 
still not an impressive sub against crystal palace
i really struggle not to feel that we are playing like 10 men when he comes on
 
Very poor in his cameo today. The one thing he needed to do is hold the ball up and help calm the match down, but he barely retained possession at all.
 
Rorschach said:
Very poor in his cameo today. The one thing he needed to do is hold the ball up and help calm the match down, but he barely retained possession at all.
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Agreed. I hoped we bought an experienced guy who could come on a do a job, but the job he seems to do is guy who lets the ball bounce off him who runs like he's just finished a marathon. I'd rather have VJ, who also didn't score but bustled about and drew fouls and could (at times) hold up the ball.
 
harr1984 said:
Such a weird transfer, I honestly think Jansen showed enough to persevere with in terms of his all round game and was confident the goals would have come. He seems far more mobile than Llorente....
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Llorente is a better all round player, some of his touches, flicks are amazing, he's just off the pace of his teammates.

The reason he is ahead of Jansen, is Jansen is always under pressure, he has to prove himself, that panic doesn't help the team. Llorente at Madrid shows exactly why he was bought, calm head in dressing room, proven winner, under no real personal pressure.
 
Raziel said:
Llorente is a better all round player, some of his touches, flicks are amazing, he's just off the pace of his teammates.

The reason he is ahead of Jansen, is Jansen is always under pressure, he has to prove himself, that panic doesn't help the team. Llorente at Madrid shows exactly why he was bought, calm head in dressing room, proven winner, under no real personal pressure.
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llorente is over the hill, and i am expecting his pace and reaction times to depart as mine is in the game. unless the whole team slows down to suit him, i fail to see how they are going to play really well together.

i understand the need for a plan b or a tactical execution, but for me so far llorente's introduction has been far from convincing.
 
harr1984 said:
Such a weird transfer, I honestly think Jansen showed enough to persevere with in terms of his all round game and was confident the goals would have come. He seems far more mobile than Llorente....
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I agree about Janssen and believe we cut him lose too soon, as for Llorente i still think it was a good buy and its far too soon to start writing him off.
 
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