Spursalot
Jimmy McCormick
Re: Fergie: Officially Retiring
I've lost track at who is trolling and who isn't at this stage.. 8-[
I've lost track at who is trolling and who isn't at this stage.. 8-[
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Fergie: Retired, Moyes: Sacked, LVG/Giggs: The New Super Duo
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Enter the Pitbull
Luke Young
Mumorn
Vic Buckingham
Re: Fergie: Officially Retiring
Arc, don't act so arrogant by taking a quote out of context. Did he say they were like Wigan? No.
The fact is that Dortmund finished 6th, 7th, 7th, 9th and 13th in the five seasons previous to Klopp's appointment. They then finished 6th, 5th, 1st and 1st again in the next four seasons. The fact is that they were irrelevant in any league title races or Champion's league challenges for a while before he came on board. In terms of those competitions they really were on the edge of obscurity, but look at them now. To do that on very little money is a hell of an achievement.
They were close to relegation in the mid 2000's. They were financially crippled. What Klopp has done sinc ebeing there is absolutely fantastic.
Arc, don't act so arrogant by taking a quote out of context. Did he say they were like Wigan? No.
The fact is that Dortmund finished 6th, 7th, 7th, 9th and 13th in the five seasons previous to Klopp's appointment. They then finished 6th, 5th, 1st and 1st again in the next four seasons. The fact is that they were irrelevant in any league title races or Champion's league challenges for a while before he came on board. In terms of those competitions they really were on the edge of obscurity, but look at them now. To do that on very little money is a hell of an achievement.
They were close to relegation in the mid 2000's. They were financially crippled. What Klopp has done sinc ebeing there is absolutely fantastic.
Re: Fergie: Officially Retiring
You made reference to their 'financial situation' - I simply responded by suggesting that contributing their financial turnaround to him is disregarding number of factors which were in place years before his appointment
You made reference to their 'financial situation' - I simply responded by suggesting that contributing their financial turnaround to him is disregarding number of factors which were in place years before his appointment
Re: Fergie: Officially Retiring
Not sure Bond's satnav works that far
The man, the legend. Can he bankrupt a team that rakes in billions? Let`s find out!
Not sure Bond's satnav works that far
Mumorn
Vic Buckingham
Re: Fergie: Officially Retiring
Okay, forget the 'financial situation'
"The fact is that Dortmund finished 6th, 7th, 7th, 9th and 13th in the five seasons previous to Klopp's appointment. They then finished 6th, 5th, 1st and 1st again in the next four seasons. The fact is that they were irrelevant in any league title races or Champion's league challenges for a while before he came on board. In terms of those competitions they really were on the edge of obscurity, but look at them now. To do that on very little money is a hell of an achievement.
They were close to relegation in the mid 2000's. They were financially crippled. What Klopp has done sinc ebeing there is absolutely fantastic."
You still think he's a "german ramos" ?
Okay, forget the 'financial situation'
"The fact is that Dortmund finished 6th, 7th, 7th, 9th and 13th in the five seasons previous to Klopp's appointment. They then finished 6th, 5th, 1st and 1st again in the next four seasons. The fact is that they were irrelevant in any league title races or Champion's league challenges for a while before he came on board. In terms of those competitions they really were on the edge of obscurity, but look at them now. To do that on very little money is a hell of an achievement.
They were close to relegation in the mid 2000's. They were financially crippled. What Klopp has done sinc ebeing there is absolutely fantastic."
You still think he's a "german ramos" ?
Spursalot
Jimmy McCormick
Re: Fergie: Officially Retiring
There's only one way they're going to solve this really..
There's only one way they're going to solve this really..
DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
Re: Fergie: Officially Retiring
Don`t see what`s so controversial about this, to be honest. It`s true: Dortmund`s financial health has less to do with Klopp and far more to do with the new-found long-sightedness of a board determined to avoid the crippling financial insecurity that had cost them dearly in the big-spending days immediately before and for five years after 1997.
He`s a fantastic manager, adept at signing great players on low wages and for low fees, but he`s not a financial guru, not by any means.
Don`t see what`s so controversial about this, to be honest. It`s true: Dortmund`s financial health has less to do with Klopp and far more to do with the new-found long-sightedness of a board determined to avoid the crippling financial insecurity that had cost them dearly in the big-spending days immediately before and for five years after 1997.
He`s a fantastic manager, adept at signing great players on low wages and for low fees, but he`s not a financial guru, not by any means.
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I simply think at this stage in time he's as 'proven' as someone like Ramos or Benitez were at this stage in time respectively - what happens in the future is of course another story
Remember - you are judging Ramos and Benitez now - 5-6 years later, but at the time of their appointments they was rated very highly and many on here were delighted to see Ramos sign. Hindsight, 20/20, etc.
I simply think at this stage in time he's as 'proven' as someone like Ramos or Benitez were at this stage in time respectively - what happens in the future is of course another story
Remember - you are judging Ramos and Benitez now - 5-6 years later, but at the time of their appointments they was rated very highly and many on here were delighted to see Ramos sign. Hindsight, 20/20, etc.
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DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
Re: Fergie: Officially Retiring
That daily commute from Sandbanks to Ukraine must have been a bit of a chugger, but Harry was willing to manage.
Come on, don`t dash my dreams on the rocks. I want to see Chris Samba, Rob Green and Jenas in red on 250k a week.
That daily commute from Sandbanks to Ukraine must have been a bit of a chugger, but Harry was willing to manage.
Come on, don`t dash my dreams on the rocks. I want to see Chris Samba, Rob Green and Jenas in red on 250k a week.
Mumorn
Vic Buckingham
Re: Fergie: Officially Retiring
All I'm saying is that he took a team that was brick and built them up from nothing. To do that is amazing. He would be perfect for United, a young manager with the potential to be a long term successor, knows how to develop young players, can work on a budget and gets his teams playing good football. Also knows how to get to a Champion's league final.
As for manager's being proven, when did Ramos take a team to a Champion's league final? Silly comment. Benitez was a top manager at one point but went completely off the boil, that's a whole different story.
All I'm saying is that he took a team that was brick and built them up from nothing. To do that is amazing. He would be perfect for United, a young manager with the potential to be a long term successor, knows how to develop young players, can work on a budget and gets his teams playing good football. Also knows how to get to a Champion's league final.
As for manager's being proven, when did Ramos take a team to a Champion's league final? Silly comment. Benitez was a top manager at one point but went completely off the boil, that's a whole different story.
Re: Fergie: Officially Retiring
Unless he lifts the trophy in a few weeks time - I'd argue winning two UEFA cups reads better than one CL final - no matter what the propagandistic, sensationalist driven media might suggests. Would you agree?
Unless he lifts the trophy in a few weeks time - I'd argue winning two UEFA cups reads better than one CL final - no matter what the propagandistic, sensationalist driven media might suggests. Would you agree?
shaney
Alan Hutton
Re: Fergie: Officially Retiring
Bit dramatic ? You could write that whole monologue and simply replace the words "Fergie was the manager on Man U" to "Eastenders has been on tv".
Bit dramatic ? You could write that whole monologue and simply replace the words "Fergie was the manager on Man U" to "Eastenders has been on tv".
Hootnow
Jermaine Jenas
Re: Fergie: Officially Retiring
Perhaps arguably. It certainly doesn't read as well as 2 league titles though.
Perhaps arguably. It certainly doesn't read as well as 2 league titles though.
Danners9
Luke Young
Re: Fergie: Officially Retiring
Curbishley is available...
Fergie in the boardroom is a hindrance to the new manager, if he dares deviate from the plan. And what if it doesn't go right straight away..? this transition was always going to be difficult for Man Utd. For their sakes, whoever it is has to be up to the task. Not entirely sure Moyes is, but not my decision either. For everyone else, perhaps the league just got a little bit fairer.. penalties at Old Trafford next year, maybe.
Curbishley is available...
Fergie in the boardroom is a hindrance to the new manager, if he dares deviate from the plan. And what if it doesn't go right straight away..? this transition was always going to be difficult for Man Utd. For their sakes, whoever it is has to be up to the task. Not entirely sure Moyes is, but not my decision either. For everyone else, perhaps the league just got a little bit fairer.. penalties at Old Trafford next year, maybe.