:ross: at someone voting for Ramos
Double :ross: at Ramos getting more votes than
Double :ross: at Ramos getting more votes than
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Ex-managers: I'm pining for the past and cannot move on
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Mulletperm
Mauricio Taricco
The bad old days where we played fantastic football and qualified for the Champions League? Are those the 'bad old days' you're referring to? I tell you what, I'll take those bad old days over the utter ****e we've been served up recently.
Mosquito_Coasting
Jonathan Woodgate
Any quotes on Redknapp being willing to loan Bale to Birmingham?
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
The bad old days started in the mid-to-late 80s. We stumbled through to the very early 90s, but really it's been ****e ever since.
2 league cup wins in 23 years is nowhere near good enough for one of the traditional big 5 (or big 7 with the two doping teams) clubs.
Amazing, isn't it?
No, the bad old days where our care in the community manager failed to get the best out of the handful of world class players we had.
Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
Yeah, we're on to a winner if we keep signing players like Capoue and Paulinho. We finished 4th when we should have finished 3rd, boohoo. AVB arguably should have got us 4th in his first season too.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
We had a great run-in in spring 2013. It was just that Arsenal had better than title-winning form over those last 8-10 matches.
SteveAWOL
Chris Jones
Perhaps us fans need to stop deluding ourselves that Spurs are one of the giants of English football and accept the fact that (aside from a few golden years under Nicholson and Rowe) we are traditionally a mid-table club who occasionally pick up a cup :-k Even before they won the lotto, Cit£h had won the title just as many times as us...
Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
We also had a 7 point lead and then AVB came out with that "negative spiral" comment which sent Arsenal into an even bigger tailspin
thfcsteff
George Hunt
Been posted many many times from a variety of sources, but given how no-one here wants to believe it, I'll choose this link to illustrate the point. Note too that Clive Allen was one of Harry's team and thus will exercise diplomacy. There's more to the story but that's also been done to death.
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/23947384
thfcsteff
George Hunt
We did. But at least no-one could ever accuse AVB of taking his eye off the ball. Maybe he wasn't good enough or maybe he suffered bad luck in not having Modric/having to adapt and not getting Moutinho. Who knows, and that will always be a subject of opinion. But his application? Never. He gave everything. He was a nutter. If Harry had given even 20% of that onto of what he did give those last two half-seasons, we'd have done it comfortably. Harry had the moment; twice really. And he blew it twice because he didn't give the Tottenham Hotspur manager's job his full attention. You could argue that he didn't need to because of the players he had who could do it alone...but as we saw (twice) however good your squad they still need their manager at those critical junctures.
That's not true ask chich for details, and you will see in the last month he was not game.
Finney Is Back
Luka Modric
IMO there were times under Ramos when we looked better than we did under all of the others other than Redknapp. The problem was that after winning the Carling Cup we went on holiday for most of our other games, I think the fact that the manager allowed this to happen then did him no favours the following season (although he was also massively hampered by Keane being sold and Berbatov throwing his toys out of the pram and also eventually being sold).
Robspur12
Nick Barmby
Great Post Steff sums up my feelings on harry too.
Finney Is Back
Luka Modric
AVB? I agree he was an awful manager, but there's no need to disrespect the mentally ill by likening him to them!
Finney Is Back
Luka Modric
I had no problem with AVB's application (well right up until the point that he decided he couldn't be bothered to try to turn it around) I just had a problem with his ability.... I can genuinely remember not actually wanting to use my season ticket and go and watch the matches. It was as though he had misinterpreted the famous "The great fallacy" quote and thought that it said that "it WAS about boring the other lot to death"
thfcsteff
George Hunt
Both you and DTA are re-writing history here.
I get asked multiple times for sources on this sort of thing, I'd like some in this case.
He might well have become thoroughly ****ed off (indeed I know he was ****ed off as early as the season before!) and he might well have felt that he had hit a wall given the circumstances (and his own rather curious nature - this edges into speculation and is something I cannot prove factually but I have always believed he had some sort of light asperger-ish response to pressure - again, I stress, not a fact and only speculation) but he never gave less than he was physically and mentally capable of giving at that given moment. He didn't look for other jobs while under our employ (he turned down the PSG tap-up, something which came because word had circulated that he and Levy were not getting on) and he was fighting for it.
The other stuff you wrote? Beyond argument because it's your opinion, and you were not alone. I don't see quite as badly, however again, I wouldn't and couldn't criticize an opinion mate. I think it was his time to go incidentally.