Hashegotthesackyet?
Gudni Bergsson
Then I don't think you have much of an argument
You can say that again
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Eric Dier
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You can say that again
afsoc4life
Dean Richards
Let us watch for his performance.
imcallingbullsh*t
Steven Caulker
People are looking for issues where there are none.
https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/players/error_lead_to_goal
Lloris has been far more culpable in a few crucial games this year, Vertonghen has quite literally has a few slips recently.
People simply get a bee in their bonnet about a player and then look for issues. He makes mistakes but as its been already said, name me a better centre back at his age.
https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/players/head_clearance
https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/players/error_lead_to_goal
Lloris has been far more culpable in a few crucial games this year, Vertonghen has quite literally has a few slips recently.
People simply get a bee in their bonnet about a player and then look for issues. He makes mistakes but as its been already said, name me a better centre back at his age.
https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/players/head_clearance
afsoc4life
Dean Richards
Off the top of my head and without digging too deep.
Zouma for France - age 22
Umtiti for France - age 23
Eric Bailly - age 22
Mike Keane - age 23 has had a brilliant season
Dier is young and learning - aight.
Zouma for France - age 22
Umtiti for France - age 23
Eric Bailly - age 22
Mike Keane - age 23 has had a brilliant season
Dier is young and learning - aight.
Bedfordspurs
Chris Waddle
Chelsea Zouma you mean? He hasn't done much in reality but cost a lot... and can't get in there side at the moment.
Umtiti is a very good player i agree
Bailly has played hardly any games to even be considered quality IMO. He cost a hell of a lot of money for a player with so little experience and proven quality
Keane from Burnley you mean. Looks good so far. Lets judge him after 2 1/2 seasons at the top like Dier
Gazza Dazzla
Chris Perry
I wouldn't swap Dier for any of those! (I haven't seen Umtiti though tbf).
Is that the point you were proving or trying to disprove? Sorry I scrolled back a page or two but I couldn't see what your post was in relation to.
Grays_1890
Barry Daines
Dier is decent but is still learning. Alot better MF than DF.
Keane is a better defender at Burnley, I can say that but I see Dier as a very decent def midfielder
Keane is a better defender at Burnley, I can say that but I see Dier as a very decent def midfielder
Stats.
So your stats say that Dier is better in the air and makes less mistakes than Toby Alderweireld. Just doesn't add up.
Bedfordspurs
Chris Waddle
As I said earlier let's judge Keane after 3 seasons in the top division
imcallingbullsh*t
Steven Caulker
Eric DIer 2162 Mins Played
Toby 1704 Mins played
Im saying that we have the best defence in the league, and that is with Dier playing the most minutes, so he cant be as error strewn as some people make out.
parklane1
Tony Galvin
Agree 100,% with this. Dier has just turned 23 and is a regular for not just us but England as well. He can play in several posistions and does a very good job in all of them. He will probably not get to his peak for a couple of years yet and when he does he will be a special player.
90291Spur
Paul Walsh
And some on here will still slate him for every little mistake he makes.
Glenda's Legs
Paul Walsh
It is the versatility you rmention that makes him so important to Poch.
He spoke about it yesterday http://www.football.london/tottenha...io-pochettino-reveals-secrets-behind-12823748
Could we find a better CB? Possibly. But that doesn't mean he is not more than sufficiently competent in that position. How many 23 year olds could be deployed in a top level PL team at either CB, DM or (less preferably) RB?
That's pretty impressive really for such a relatively young player to have that ability to switch positions. It demonstrates both capability and adaptability and intelligence.
I agree he is a special prospect.
He's not a defender. His best position is DM however given that we've gone to a back three despite not having many defenders and also given Wanyama has been excellent, he's been playing at the back
Bedfordspurs
Chris Waddle
He has spent 90% of his footballing life there in defence
He sporadically played midfield in Lisbon and also right back too
Gazza Dazzla
Chris Perry
This is true, but in a Spurs shirt his best performances have all been in CM. I think that's maybe one of the things that could prize him away from us, the promise of playing CM? (Completely guessing here)
thfcsteff
Garth Crooks
Out of all of them I would say Keane is on par. Zouma? Not better than Dier for me, I have not seen enough of Umtiti this season and I think Bailly has been OK nothing more.
As you said, Dier is young and learning. He can also play more positions than your examples IMO...
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imcallingbullsh*t
Steven Caulker
zouma doesnt finish that
tractorspur
Carlo Cudicini
Dier/Dembele midfield for Wednesday then. Incredible that we can field that after our 2 starters getting injured today.
Strong
Strong
i would start how we finished today save for Janssen instead of Sissoko and dropping Son in to the AM