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Batspur said:
Mindless Levy lickers need to be told what is happening and what happened…..

Its almost Trump like.

Stockholm Syndrome.

You are brainwashed. I’ll sit here and embarrass you till I’m banned.

Levy is a cancer on our club.

Tavistock has raped this club. You’ll never wake up. Thats fine. Keep paying mug.
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Show me on the accounts where any of our investors take money out of the club.

Then show me on the doll where Levy touched you.
 
I think “tourist” has been taken out of context. IME it was always used for casual fans and in areas where season ticket holders often got to know each other well, it was used when someone couldn’t attend and their seat was sold. “Oh he’s not coming today, sold his seat to a tourist” that’s how it was used back in my days of having a ticket. Not a literal tourist visiting on holiday
 
thfcsteff said:
How do you define 'a tourist'?
And tourists often become fans.
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A tourist is someone who buys their ticket that was typically sold by a ST holder who doesn’t want to go to that game
A key aspect is the ST not wanting to go for whatever reason
Form my experience there are 3 types of reasons for not going
Clash of events - normal
People who buy the ST with no intent on going much at all - uprisings common where I sit
My mate - thinks Ange is a fat cnut so sells his ticket now for most games almost as a protest… then spends the money in the pub
The issue of course with the latter is that the club gain more by selling the seat with a package or get more revenue form money spent in the shop
The South African guy who was next to me a month ago spent money in the shop and the bar and couldn’t have been more invested in the game if he tried. A real supporter
I’ve seen the tweets from the groups set up to get an atmosphere and they have really missed a trick with the tourists in what is now a global sport
Yep they ain’t roosterney geezers but they disks money at the club and the same people complaining are ones that we don’t spend enough
 
Bedfordspurs said:
A tourist is someone who buys their ticket that was typically sold by a ST holder who doesn’t want to go to that game
A key aspect is the ST not wanting to go for whatever reason
Form my experience there are 3 types of reasons for not going
Clash of events - normal
People who buy the ST with no intent on going much at all - uprisings common where I sit
My mate - thinks Ange is a fat cnut so sells his ticket now for most games almost as a protest… then spends the money in the pub
The issue of course with the latter is that the club gain more by selling the seat with a package or get more revenue form money spent in the shop
The South African guy who was next to me a month ago spent money in the shop and the bar and couldn’t have been more invested in the game if he tried. A real supporter
I’ve seen the tweets from the groups set up to get an atmosphere and they have really missed a trick with the tourists in what is now a global sport
Yep they ain’t roosterney geezers but they disks money at the club and the same people complaining are ones that we don’t spend enough
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I have no data...but I'd guess the majority of 'tourists' that are visiting are facilitated by STs selling their tickets. So it's in the STs hands, as a group, to block that path if it agitates them.

Alternatively they could turn up every week and support us thru thick and thin?

I've been to many a ground when abroad as a tourist, just for the experience and the love of football. The magnetism of football makes one do that. If your fellow ST holder is not quite loving the footie at that time I can guarantee the person filling the seat will be.

Has there been any in stadium nastiness towards these 'tourists'? Or is it all just SM bitching?
 
Bedfordspurs said:
A tourist is someone who buys their ticket that was typically sold by a ST holder who doesn’t want to go to that game
A key aspect is the ST not wanting to go for whatever reason
Form my experience there are 3 types of reasons for not going
Clash of events - normal
People who buy the ST with no intent on going much at all - uprisings common where I sit
My mate - thinks Ange is a fat cnut so sells his ticket now for most games almost as a protest… then spends the money in the pub
The issue of course with the latter is that the club gain more by selling the seat with a package or get more revenue form money spent in the shop
The South African guy who was next to me a month ago spent money in the shop and the bar and couldn’t have been more invested in the game if he tried. A real supporter
I’ve seen the tweets from the groups set up to get an atmosphere and they have really missed a trick with the tourists in what is now a global sport
Yep they ain’t roosterney geezers but they disks money at the club and the same people complaining are ones that we don’t spend enough
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The issue I have is that you don't know that by just looking at someone, so for them to say "there are tourists and not fans" is basically them having another pop at Koreans in the ground because they are ones you can identify, thats where it is IMO. Unless they are going round the fans taking a survey I find the whole idea that these fans are tourists and not fans really disingenuous by those that scream it

Like you have said, many go, go to club shop, spend well and get fully invested into the game regardless where they come from, thats somehow been spun into a major negative by some who claim that they can no longer sing at games because of Tourists.

Its also really an issue when ST holders are flogging their tickets on the exchanges to people then blaming the people that buy them....bit of a self fulfilled prophesy
 
ricky2tricky4city said:
I have no data...but I'd guess the majority of 'tourists' that are visiting are facilitated by STs selling their tickets. So it's in the STs hands, as a group, to block that path if it agitates them.

Alternatively they could turn up every week and support us thru thick and thin?

I've been to many a ground when abroad as a tourist, just for the experience and the love of football. The magnetism of football makes one do that. If your fellow ST holder is not quite loving the footie at that time I can guarantee the person filling the seat will be.

Has there been any in stadium nastiness towards these 'tourists'? Or is it all just SM bitching?
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I’ve not seen any nastiness in reality but SM is the cesspit as we know
 
Grays_1890 said:
The issue I have is that you don't know that by just looking at someone, so for them to say "there are tourists and not fans" is basically them having another pop at Koreans in the ground because they are ones you can identify, thats where it is IMO. Unless they are going round the fans taking a survey I find the whole idea that these fans are tourists and not fans really disingenuous by those that scream it

Like you have said, many go, go to club shop, spend well and get fully invested into the game regardless where they come from, thats somehow been spun into a major negative by some who claim that they can no longer sing at games because of Tourists.

Its also really an issue when ST holders are flogging their tickets on the exchanges to people then blaming the people that buy them....bit of a self fulfilled prophesy
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The last line is key
I’ve also heard people say walk out of games or boycott games
But of course the noisy complainers are, from my experience, the ones who sell their tickets on and then are proud they ain’t going
 
Jurgen the German said:
I must admit I went to the Elfsborg game and I didn’t recognise a single person in the block where I sit.
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You have to have a massive points haul for away games including Europe do you not? *Edit Hoffenheim not Elfs

I know loads who have done Europe this year and they are the same names that go away here.
 
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Jurgen the German said:
I must admit I went to the Elfsborg game and I didn’t recognise a single person in the block where I sit.
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I was surrounded by Korean fans
All mid twenties I’d say so young enough to travel and clearly rich enough to afford it
It’s probably several thousand ££ for them to come to the UK and they spend that money
But we were in the west lower posh seats
Great seats too
 
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