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Emmanuel Adebayor - Officially gone \o/
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Jamie Redknapp
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You say punished, reports say he was told to train with the reserves to build up his fitness before returning to the first team's schedule.
You say punished, reports say he was told to train with the reserves to build up his fitness before returning to the first team's schedule.
clownfoot
Goran Bunjevcevic
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He's frustrating. As you say, he is probably the best striker at the team, but his application is what annoys me. Berbatov was languid, so you knew he wasn't going to put the running effort in, but Ade seems to do it when he sees fit.
For his first goal yesterday, say the roles were reversed and Soldado put the pass to Ade way off near the touchline, would he have chased it like Soldado did? Hard to say for definite, but I could imagine him giving up. Their first goal yesterday came about by him losing the ball and not attempting to get it back.
AVB isn't the only manager in Ade's career to not trust him. He has had something to prove since coming back in the team. If he gets settled, like last season when Defoe was injured and we had no alternative, will his performances match those we have seen this week?
He's frustrating. As you say, he is probably the best striker at the team, but his application is what annoys me. Berbatov was languid, so you knew he wasn't going to put the running effort in, but Ade seems to do it when he sees fit.
For his first goal yesterday, say the roles were reversed and Soldado put the pass to Ade way off near the touchline, would he have chased it like Soldado did? Hard to say for definite, but I could imagine him giving up. Their first goal yesterday came about by him losing the ball and not attempting to get it back.
AVB isn't the only manager in Ade's career to not trust him. He has had something to prove since coming back in the team. If he gets settled, like last season when Defoe was injured and we had no alternative, will his performances match those we have seen this week?
Kingdawson
Banned
Re: Official - Adebayor
and his omission from the first team squad for near enough every game this season?
and his omission from the first team squad for near enough every game this season?
Re: Official - Adebayor
If his attitude was even remotely like his statement last night where he assumes he is automatically due respect rather than needing to earn it I'm not surprised.
Let's use Occam's Razor and look at the alternative;
A professional football manager, tasked with beating other teams intentionally leaves out his best striker and best chance of beating other team's in order to......
Well, I'm stumped there. In order to intentionally lose matches? In order to **** you off?
If his attitude was even remotely like his statement last night where he assumes he is automatically due respect rather than needing to earn it I'm not surprised.
Let's use Occam's Razor and look at the alternative;
A professional football manager, tasked with beating other teams intentionally leaves out his best striker and best chance of beating other team's in order to......
Well, I'm stumped there. In order to intentionally lose matches? In order to **** you off?
Re: Official - Adebayor
AVB said he didn't freeze him out but got him to train with the reserves because he was at a different level of fitness to the rest of the squad and therefore needed a different programme. Not sure how common that sort of thing really is mind but you often hear of people coming back from long term injuries or those who miss pre season being given a tailored programme.
AVB said he didn't freeze him out but got him to train with the reserves because he was at a different level of fitness to the rest of the squad and therefore needed a different programme. Not sure how common that sort of thing really is mind but you often hear of people coming back from long term injuries or those who miss pre season being given a tailored programme.
Jurgen the German
Willie Hall
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I didn't like the fact that he took ages to come back from the ACN, in fact, he should have been fined heavily for it. But I don't think it's on to have a pop at someone for taking their time in dealing with a bereavement. I mean some people in real life would milk it just because they could get away with it, but people deal with death in different ways. It took me about 6 months before I could start to say I was getting better after my dad died, although I only took 2 weeks off work and then had minimal time off after that, and by minimal I mean a few days in half a year (as holiday). Broadening the discussion out a bit, we've seen how professional athletes, cricketers especially suffer with depression, it can hit anyone regardless of the life they lead or how much money they earn.
I didn't like the fact that he took ages to come back from the ACN, in fact, he should have been fined heavily for it. But I don't think it's on to have a pop at someone for taking their time in dealing with a bereavement. I mean some people in real life would milk it just because they could get away with it, but people deal with death in different ways. It took me about 6 months before I could start to say I was getting better after my dad died, although I only took 2 weeks off work and then had minimal time off after that, and by minimal I mean a few days in half a year (as holiday). Broadening the discussion out a bit, we've seen how professional athletes, cricketers especially suffer with depression, it can hit anyone regardless of the life they lead or how much money they earn.
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Jimmy McCormick
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And why did AVB make Ade apologise to the rest of the squad from a raised platform?
Where Ade's levels of humiliation at a different level to the rest of the squad?
And why did AVB make Ade apologise to the rest of the squad from a raised platform?
Where Ade's levels of humiliation at a different level to the rest of the squad?
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Luke Young
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"We had meetings about the situation but, if a manager thinks something about someone, then we've all got to respect," said Rose when asked about Adebayor's previous exclusion. "We might not agree with it, but we have to respect it. We are all just happy Ade's back now. When he plays like that, you can see why he's played for a lot of great clubs. He gives us another dimension: he can finish, hold the ball up, and he wins defensive headers from set pieces. He's definitely like a new signing.
"The fact he stood up and apologised shows he does want to play for the club. It goes without saying, he's not short of money so he could have just sat and not done anything. But he apologised and that's that. Whatever happened with the previous manager, it's up to the manager. But, as I said, we've just got to forget about that and look forward. The top four is still the aim. The previous manager wanted to win a trophy and finish in the top four, and it should be the same whoever comes in now or for Tim. Personally, I want to finish in the top four. The club flourished playing Champions League football and that's the aim."
"We had meetings about the situation but, if a manager thinks something about someone, then we've all got to respect," said Rose when asked about Adebayor's previous exclusion. "We might not agree with it, but we have to respect it. We are all just happy Ade's back now. When he plays like that, you can see why he's played for a lot of great clubs. He gives us another dimension: he can finish, hold the ball up, and he wins defensive headers from set pieces. He's definitely like a new signing.
"The fact he stood up and apologised shows he does want to play for the club. It goes without saying, he's not short of money so he could have just sat and not done anything. But he apologised and that's that. Whatever happened with the previous manager, it's up to the manager. But, as I said, we've just got to forget about that and look forward. The top four is still the aim. The previous manager wanted to win a trophy and finish in the top four, and it should be the same whoever comes in now or for Tim. Personally, I want to finish in the top four. The club flourished playing Champions League football and that's the aim."
Re: Official - Adebayor
No idea on that one or what the apology was for.
Does sound like poor mgt, if it was for missing the private jet that led to him being unavailable for some games then a squad apology might be warranted but certainly not from a raised platform.
No idea on that one or what the apology was for.
Does sound like poor mgt, if it was for missing the private jet that led to him being unavailable for some games then a squad apology might be warranted but certainly not from a raised platform.
ricky2tricky4city
Steffen Freund
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Ade has made a career falling in and out of favour. Wherever he has been the only constant has been him. If Tim can get a tune out of him at the moment, then great, we need as many hands to the pump as possible at the moment. But if Ade is the answer then i'd like to know what the question is?
Don't hang your hat on Ade long term, if we want a consistent team then all players need to be consistent and committed (as possible). If he's in the mood at the moment, use him. And that's taking a leaf out of Ade's manual.... looking after no.1
Ade has made a career falling in and out of favour. Wherever he has been the only constant has been him. If Tim can get a tune out of him at the moment, then great, we need as many hands to the pump as possible at the moment. But if Ade is the answer then i'd like to know what the question is?
Don't hang your hat on Ade long term, if we want a consistent team then all players need to be consistent and committed (as possible). If he's in the mood at the moment, use him. And that's taking a leaf out of Ade's manual.... looking after no.1
Superhudd
Simon Davies
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Haha ... To right we should.
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Haha ... To right we should.
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That's my point really, we all deal differently and nobody gets over bereavement quickly. But we do just get on with life.
If Ade is depressed, as you alluded to at the end of the post, then he needs to admit it so that we can get the insurance on him next time he goes AWOL.
That's my point really, we all deal differently and nobody gets over bereavement quickly. But we do just get on with life.
If Ade is depressed, as you alluded to at the end of the post, then he needs to admit it so that we can get the insurance on him next time he goes AWOL.
thfcsteff
Garth Crooks
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I was a great supporter of AVB Scara, but on this issue he ****ed up IMO. Whatever the rights and wrongs of a situation, the reality is that some people react to loss differently to others. And further, I'd suggest that Ade's character is such that he needs a bit of TLC. Whether we agree with the rights and wrong of that, those are the facts, and as a manager, if you have a valuable asset which needs a bit of alternative treatment, I'd say you should execute it.
Ade's an interesting character, one who I think has often been misunderstood. In Togo, the man is like a King AND with that is saddled with financial expectations and responsibilities the likes of which we could not gauge. I'd say that well over half his money goes to supporting extended family/various Togolese charity initiatives.
My personal feeling on why AVB's patience with Ade ran out this summer comes down to timing. I think he'd just ben informed of the U-turn by Bale and Barnett via Levy, and I think suddenly Ade suffers a family bereavement and takes off (with blessings) but doesn't surface for a while. I'd say the timing angered him greatly.
I was a great supporter of AVB Scara, but on this issue he ****ed up IMO. Whatever the rights and wrongs of a situation, the reality is that some people react to loss differently to others. And further, I'd suggest that Ade's character is such that he needs a bit of TLC. Whether we agree with the rights and wrong of that, those are the facts, and as a manager, if you have a valuable asset which needs a bit of alternative treatment, I'd say you should execute it.
Ade's an interesting character, one who I think has often been misunderstood. In Togo, the man is like a King AND with that is saddled with financial expectations and responsibilities the likes of which we could not gauge. I'd say that well over half his money goes to supporting extended family/various Togolese charity initiatives.
My personal feeling on why AVB's patience with Ade ran out this summer comes down to timing. I think he'd just ben informed of the U-turn by Bale and Barnett via Levy, and I think suddenly Ade suffers a family bereavement and takes off (with blessings) but doesn't surface for a while. I'd say the timing angered him greatly.
Re: Official - Adebayor
really - paulino - been awful for 90% of the season - and first name on the team sheet.
Back on topic - ade has been awesome in both games - knitting play up between midfield and the front line - unseen all season - and watching him bust a gut to get on the end of defoes cross was great to see.
another 2 - whatever went on - it was atrocious management skills.
really - paulino - been awful for 90% of the season - and first name on the team sheet.
Back on topic - ade has been awesome in both games - knitting play up between midfield and the front line - unseen all season - and watching him bust a gut to get on the end of defoes cross was great to see.
another 2 - whatever went on - it was atrocious management skills.
Re: Official - Adebayor
Forget all the bereavement stuff, coz we don't know what goes on in Adebayor's head.
What we do know is that Adebayor would have been a useful addition in games this season and AVB did his level best to freeze him out. That was not a pragmatic decision and it may have cost him his job (in a roundabout way).
Forget all the bereavement stuff, coz we don't know what goes on in Adebayor's head.
What we do know is that Adebayor would have been a useful addition in games this season and AVB did his level best to freeze him out. That was not a pragmatic decision and it may have cost him his job (in a roundabout way).