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Djed Spence

NaijaSpurs said:
Conte would not be the first great manager to be wrong or have tunnel vision about a particular player
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He might be “wrong”, but he’s the one making the decision, he isn’t picking names out of a hat, he’s decided that from his options, Royal is the best fit.

What you want from a WB isn’t necessarily what Conte, or anybody else, wants.
 
Baleforce said:
I think he was partly to blame for that yes, but not a whole goal, again we gave possession away cheaply in the left defensive zone and failed to close down the man crossing the ball.

I saw his as a positive contribution yesterday.

If Conte didn’t agree, he wouldn’t keep starting him would he?
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Conte would start anyone if it proved a point
He is that stubborn
We have to stop accepting mediocrity in f we want to progress
 
Bedfordspurs said:
Conte would start anyone if it proved a point
He is that stubborn
We have to stop accepting mediocrity in f we want to progress
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If he thinks that’s the best way to move the club forward, let him have at it.

Whatever his logic, it’s his decision to make. I think Conte clearly knows what he is doing, I don’t need to understand it.

Is there anyone in the squad who hasn’t been mediocre this season?
 
Baleforce said:
If he thinks that’s the best way to move the club forward, let him have at it.

Whatever his logic, it’s his decision to make. I think Conte clearly knows what he is doing, I don’t need to understand it.

Is there anyone in the squad who hasn’t been mediocre this season?
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I don’t think conte does know
I think he is trying to show horn players into a system they can’t play and NOT a playing players who can play the system out of spite and arrogance
He has done it before and it’s his nature
One of mediocre games I can accept, but royal is just poor at most things. He is the laughing stock of the team from an opposition point of view. They let him have it knowing he can reach the parts other players can’t (car parks with shots).
 
Bedfordspurs said:
I don’t think conte does know
I think he is trying to show horn players into a system they can’t play and NOT a playing players who can play the system out of spite and arrogance
He has done it before and it’s his nature
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Fair enough, I think he knows what he’s doing, and is doing what he thinks is most likely to win games.
 
"If its what Conte wants then who are we to question"

Its the most flawed riposte used on this forum and is just stupidly prolific in recent weeks.
 
Bedfordspurs said:
Yesterday showed me he didn’t know
He panicked and lucked out
I’d always take a lucky manager but he isn’t traditionally one of those
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I think our recent issues are down to lack of effort and concentration from some players, rather than the tactics.
 
Baleforce said:
I think our recent issues are down to lack of effort and concentration from some players, rather than the tactics.
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I think the work rate has been lacking in some games but again… players react to who the are playing with sometimes
We have seen game where the smart players don’t pass to the right knowing the ball will come back to them straight away so they try something else. That’s mark tactics or work rate, that’s just players knowing who can and can’t play ball
 
Bedfordspurs said:
I think the work rate has been lacking in some games but again… players react to who the are playing with sometimes
We have seen game where the smart players don’t pass to the right knowing the ball will come back to them straight away so they try something else. That’s mark tactics or work rate, that’s just players knowing who can and can’t play ball
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I don’t believe that’s happened.

If I was manager and saw a player not make the right pass because of who the recipient would be be I’d sub them off straight away.

(I believe people think they have seen that, but I question that that is actually what happened. I don’t believe a pro would disrespect a colleague like that.)
 
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Grays_1890 said:
"If its what Conte wants then who are we to question"

Its the most flawed riposte used on this forum and is just stupidly prolific in recent weeks.
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hmmm


Bedfordspurs said:
I don’t think conte does know
I think he is trying to show horn players into a system they can’t play and NOT a playing players who can play the system out of spite and arrogance
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I think that’s speculation at best
 
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Baleforce said:
I don’t believe that’s happened.

If I was manager and saw a player not make the right pass because of who the recipient would be be I’d sub them off straight away.

(I believe people think they have seen that, but I question that that is actually what happened. I don’t believe a pro would disrespect a colleague like that.)
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It’s not disrespect , it’s just a natural reaction
You look right, realise the player you would pass too would give it straight back so why bother……
 
Bedfordspurs said:
It’s not disrespect , it’s just a natural reaction
You look right, realise the player you would pass too would give it straight back so why bother……
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It's no different in some respects to the oppo who clearly allow Royal to have the ball and stand off knowing he won't cross or dithers badly, which is a clear tactic recently
 
NaijaSpurs said:
Conte would not be the first great manager to be wrong or have tunnel vision about a particular player
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Firstly i will say this is not a dig at you at all, of course you are right about not being the first great manager to be wrong or have tunnel vision about a player. However we can also say some fans could have tunnel vision about certain players. Would that be fair?.
 
Bedfordspurs said:
It is of course
But he has a history of playing players he says he trusts and not playing players he claims aren’t his, even if signed on his watch
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I wouldn’t say that’s out of “spite”. I think if Conte believed Spence would give us a better chance of winning any particular game he’d pick him. The fact that he hasn’t suggests he thinks we have better options. Sure, that’s “arrogance” but his record entitles him to it. Of course people can have their own opinions.
 
Mcfee said:
I wouldn’t say that’s out of “spite”. I think if Conte believed Spence would give us a better chance of winning any particular game he’d pick him. The fact that he hasn’t suggests he thinks we have better options. Sure, that’s “arrogance” but his record entitles him to it. Of course people can have their own opinions.
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Exactly. Conte wants to win football games and he'd play me there if he thought it would help. It's absolute nonsense to suggest otherwise. He just clearly doesn't think Spence is good enough yet. Is he right? F**k knows, he might be proven wrong. But he is better placed to make that call than anyone on here right now given he sees the fella every day and has 40 years experience at the top level.
 
parklane1 said:
Firstly i will say this is not a dig at you at all, of course you are right about not being the first great manager to be wrong or have tunnel vision about a player. However we can also say some fans could have tunnel vision about certain players. Would that be fair?.
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Of course which I think is a summary on this as a subject on all sides, tunnel vision and favouritism probably exists in everyone from fans to managers, people will say high paid/performing managers don't but I am sure they do, in fact I am certain
 
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