markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
Not exactly done well for a long while now, if he wants out he can go too
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Dele Alli
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nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
He should have started instead of Eriksen today
Only question for me would be his fitness levels
nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
Even so, could have come off for Moura/Winks later on.
Eriksen was brick today. Has been for a while. And is on his way out.
Alli is supposed to be playing his way back into form, represents the future, and is built for the role Eriksen failed to deliver today.
I dont like calling out managers for bad decisions too much, but that was a shocker IMHO and one I cant reason.
thfcsteff
Garth Crooks
I don't like Redknapp but he is right.
IF Dele's attitude was 100%, he could have it all...
Bishop
Nick Barmby
But he himself hasn't been playing well. I kind of feel we are in this circle where Eriksen plays brick and we say Lamela should have started. Lamela is ineffective and we say Deli should have started. Deli starts and we say someone else should have. None of them are performing to the required level.
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Sandman
Jermaine Jenas
Exactly my point in the game thread. When they are playing badly, we all think the one who is not playing is the answer. We have had Dele in the team, Lamela and Eriksen. We are still not playing in a fluid manner. I would like to see us stick to a gameplan for a while. Get the team so its not constantly changing tactics. Its crazy. We play 3-4 formations in one game. Players must be all over the place with how they are playing and in what formation. The facts are. We need to play our way into some form. That means some solidity for a while.
nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
Painful rebuild, remember?
We need to be putting in foundations for the future. Even if Alli is out of form, he needs the faith shown in him. The chance to play himself into form, and show what he can do in exactly the sort of position Eriksen (brick all season) was in.
And, to be honest, even completely off form I dont think he would have done any worse - but the message sent playing him would have been priceless.
I really liked Lamela in that role against Leicester, would have been happy to see him there too. And Id argue, against Leicester, he was certainly of the required level.
Bishop
Nick Barmby
I'll be frank I don't really rate Lamela or Deli that highly. Deli more so than Lamela but neither is good enough in my eyes to be this teams primary creator in the centre. Now accepting that we have added Ndombele potentially all passing creativity will now not have to come from the Eriksen position. Assuming that works than maybe Deli can play the role applying the finishing touch, but I'm unconvinced he has the game for it. At his best he was running on to things, occasional interesting link play but I would say that playing the cute pass is something he's especially good at imo.
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nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
I suspect we simply disagree around Alli, and thats unlikely to reconcile between us.
I think he is a top talent, and I think playing him behind Kane could be great for us.
That aside though, theres the practicality of it.
Play want away player who clearly gives zero fudges,
or play young player, highly rated, on a long deal - whom is supposed to be a star for us for years.
You go with the latter, IMO. And going with the former must send some really bricky messages to the bench.
Lamela I like, but predominantly as a squad player, I dont really see him as a first 11 regular. But again, Id be playing him right now ahead of Eriksen without even having to consider it.
Bishop
Nick Barmby
There is a logic with your pov that I can understand and respect. Maybe going with Deli would be the correct option I genuinely don't know. I hope I'm wrong and he can excel in the way we need him too. Maybe the responsibility of being the chief creator in the final third will bring the best out of him [emoji2379]
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nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
Or maybe creating being more of a team effort, than a specialist position, will bring the best out of more of the squad?
Bishop
Nick Barmby
Well now we have a bit more creativity all around with Ndombele and hopefully Lo Celso that may well work.
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Could be great? It totally and undeniably HAS been great, and incidentally in the best period of football I've ever seen Spurs play! Thing is, I'm afraid that was a different Alli, and a different Kane. And with the supply of a different Eriksen, with a team behind them that played as a team where everybody had a role - and played by it.
You always has to weigh options against each other, Eriksen at 75% is still better than every other player we have available in his position. Now he's stooped below a level where most alternatives are better, even Alli at 50%, and is still declining by the minute. I suspect that if Lo Celso was fit they would have removed Eriksen's locker and thrown away the key. And that Christian is well aware of that, everything looks like a training session to him now.
Yes that's what i expect to see, less reliance on everything going through a single playmaker with more talent in the middle pitch
nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
Well the catch for me is - Im far from convinced we need Eriksens position...
As of now, we definately don't. Our attack is so disjointed and uncoordinated at the moment that there's nothing to feed. Eriksen needs clever players in a clever system making clever runs for his clever passes. Alli used to be one of those players.
Legohamster
Ian Walker
I think with Alli storming off today shows the frustrations of players like him and Moura
He’s been out of form, but he always puts in 100 percent
He’s on the bench watching this brick being served up, can’t be easy.
He’s been out of form, but he always puts in 100 percent
He’s on the bench watching this brick being served up, can’t be easy.
nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
I real feel this is a big failure for Poch. Repeatedly putting Eriksen and Alderweireld in, despite neither of them performing, while more committed players are forced to sit and watch.