Everyone thinks he's a good buy. But it's only natural that pundits focus on why a team won and the other lost. After the man utd game they were going to talk about ronaldo not kulusevski.
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Dejan Kulusevski
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Everyone thinks he's a good buy. But it's only natural that pundits focus on why a team won and the other lost. After the man utd game they were going to talk about ronaldo not kulusevski.
SpurMeUp
Les Howe
Some players just look comfortable with the ball at their feet and can manipulate a football with more ease than others - even at elite level. Eriksen had that. And these guys do too. The likes of Sanchez, Davies, Sissoko etc don’t compare
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paxtonwolf
Tony Marchi
One plays for Liverpool
One plays for Tottenham.
And there's your answer. Had 5Live on, the weekend before last, when Liverpool played at Brighton. The commentators were literally falling over themselves everytime he touched the ball. It sounded like the 2nd coming of Pele
SpurMeUp
Les Howe
i wonder if we’d got Diaz, would we have signed Kulu too? Probably not.
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
Tottenham have two clauses to buy Dejan Kulusevski from Juventus as part of their loan deal for the midfielder.
Spurs paid €10m in January to borrow Kulusevski until June 2023, and are due to pay the Sweden international’s wages in full over that season and a half. But there is an option to turn the move into a permanent transfer this summer for €30m.
The option will remain valid the following summer unless the second clause – a €35m mandatory buy clause – comes into play. That will be activated at the end of the 2022-23 season if two conditions are met during the campaign: that Kulusevski plays in 50% of the team’s Premier League matches for at least 45 minutes and Spurs qualify for the Champions League.
alekaras
The ITK of IDK
In other words, we'll buy him this summer for €30m.
Do you mean by qualifying for the cl? If not it will probably be better off waiting another year.
alekaras
The ITK of IDK
The qualifying for CL is for the 2022/23 season only. The €30m purchase option is for this summer and next summer. So if we think we will qualify for the CL next season, we might be better off buying him this summer. Of course that €5m saved would probably go towards his salary, so in the end it might be a wash (although we would probably pay a lower loan fee, so maybe net positive). On the other hand, if we wait for next summer to sign him to a 5-year contract, we'll get an extra year out of him. It's a tricky call either way.
It's not £5m saved though. We've already paid a loan fee of £10m. So the £5m is just coming off that. If we wait we'd have him a season longer. If we offered him say a 5 year contract if we sign him this summer he'd be here till 2027, if next summer 2028. Even if the £5m didn't come from the loan fee due to amortisation we'd still be £1m better off. £30m divided by 5 is £6m a season.
FatBloke
Niko Kranjcar
The way I see it, there are four ways this could go:
1. We decide that Kulu's worth buying this summer, and fork out €30M for him.
2. We hold fire, he plays half the 2022/23 season AND we qualify for the CL at the end of it, so we have to pay €35M for him.
3. We hold fire, either of the two conditions doesn't happen, and we decide to buy him for €30M.
4. We hold fire, either of the two conditions doesn't happen, and we decide to let him go back to Juve/wherever.
Honestly, I don't see #4 happening unless Kulu picks up a serious injury or somehow becomes rubbish.
But what I'm worried about is some situation #5, whereby we don't buy him this summer and we lose him to some other club. Based on his performances so far, I'd say sign him up ASAP. We've spent far more on much worse players. If the contract is watertight enough that there's no danger of losing him then, sure, wait a year so we save some wages. But it would have to be some serious legal stuff to prevent him from going elsewhere.
1. We decide that Kulu's worth buying this summer, and fork out €30M for him.
2. We hold fire, he plays half the 2022/23 season AND we qualify for the CL at the end of it, so we have to pay €35M for him.
3. We hold fire, either of the two conditions doesn't happen, and we decide to buy him for €30M.
4. We hold fire, either of the two conditions doesn't happen, and we decide to let him go back to Juve/wherever.
Honestly, I don't see #4 happening unless Kulu picks up a serious injury or somehow becomes rubbish.
But what I'm worried about is some situation #5, whereby we don't buy him this summer and we lose him to some other club. Based on his performances so far, I'd say sign him up ASAP. We've spent far more on much worse players. If the contract is watertight enough that there's no danger of losing him then, sure, wait a year so we save some wages. But it would have to be some serious legal stuff to prevent him from going elsewhere.
Toby comes to mind. Dunno if this is different. But i'm guessing the player still has the choice to sign or not.
monkeybarry
Jack Jull
Exactly what I'm thinking.
Get it done this summer. Don't take the risk.
Well looking at the new uefa spending rules, not sure any big clubs will be spending much the next couple of years. If they get voted through.
El Guepardo
Rafael Van Der Vaart
It’s a no brainer to make the deal permanent as soon as possible. Worst case scenario if we sign him is he turns rubbish and we lose likely £10m-£15m on the price that we pay for him. Worst case scenario if we don’t sign him is that we will lose him to another club.
€30m for a player with a good reputation, that’s a full International, and is only 21, is a bargain. Certainly given his showings so far I think that there’s an argument that he’s worth double the fee.
€30m for a player with a good reputation, that’s a full International, and is only 21, is a bargain. Certainly given his showings so far I think that there’s an argument that he’s worth double the fee.
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greatwhitenorf
Edgar Davids
We're signing him. He's passed the eye test, he's putting up good numbers and Kulusevski is an ancient Balkan word for mustard.
Boom. Done.
Boom. Done.
monkeybarry
Jack Jull
Player trades rather than purchases between clubs with similar FFP issues will probably become the short term norm.
Nice way to manipulate the amortization - use a false fee.
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
Not too worried. He's already very good, with the potential to become even better. But he's not at a level where the very rich clubs will see him as a must buy kind of player, yet at least.
He's hit the ground running. Is playing for a manager and in a system he can thrive in. We're a big enough club that it would take a lot to really turn his head.
Think it will be made permanent this summer.
How would that work for the player leaving though? If a player leaves that has amortisation left that is subtracted from the price to show whether it is a loss or profit. Wouldn't a player trade just replace the amortisation figure, just adjusted to the new players contract?