Daniel Levy - Chairman

[billyiddo]

I was just kid when we signed Klinsmann so didn't really know him from Adam just thar he came with a big reputation- but when I've checked out his career on Wiki it doesn't really standout as though he was a top bracket striker tbh

 

[Baleforce]

He just won the golden boot at the WC if I remember correctly

Stoichkov in 94 wasn't it?

 

[Bedfordspurs]

I was just kid when we signed Klinsmann so didn't really know him from Adam just thar he came with a big reputation- but when I've checked out his career on Wiki it doesn't really standout as though he was a top bracket striker tbh

He really was top bracket though

 

[Legohamster]

Is it a mess?
I don’t get that

Yes, it's a mess.

Look at our record over the last year.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

Stoichkov in 94 wasn't it?

Was it
Along with the Russian guy who scored most in one game?
Thought it was Jurgen but that was a role ago
He was oustanding though

 

[Bedfordspurs]

Yes, it's a mess.

Look at our record over the last year.

With transfers?
I don’t think it is at all
I look and see a plan
But then I also don’t think we would be fixing all the issues quickly so that may be colouring my view

 

[glasgowspur]

Was it
Along with the Russian guy who scored most in one game?
Thought it was Jurgen but that was a role ago
He was oustanding though

Salenko? Ended up at rangers and was a flop.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

Salenko? Ended up at rangers and was a flop.

Yeah that was the guy
I remember when we signed klinsmann and my dad walked in with the paper and said remember that German guy you said was the best striker at the World Cup …. We’ve signed him

 

[DeanoAustin]

I was just kid when we signed Klinsmann so didn't really know him from Adam just thar he came with a big reputation- but when I've checked out his career on Wiki it doesn't really standout as though he was a top bracket striker tbh

He really was and he was a World Cup winner. You also have to consider the context. When we signed Klinsmann, top foreign players didn't play in England. They played in Spain and Italy.

Sugar wasn't a great chairman for us on the whole but that really was a case of "To Dare is to Do" along with, to a lesser extent, the signings of Dumitrescu and Popescu. VDV may have been in same ballpark but all the stories I hear about it suggest it was opportunistic whereas Sugar went out and got Klinsmann.

 

[ricky2tricky4city]

Personally, I think the fan narrative of Spurs "not spending enough" will die down when they see the accumulation of multi-year spending in this post stadium era. Spurs spend absolutely loads of money on transfers and salaries.

That will never happen if fans emotional needs are not met ie trophies. It's as simple as that.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

He really was and he was a World Cup winner. You also have to consider the context. When we signed Klinsmann, top foreign players didn't play in England. They played in Spain and Italy.

Sugar wasn't a great chairman for us on the whole but that really was a case of "To Dare is to Do" along with, to a lesser extent, the signings of Dumitrescu and Popescu. VDV may have been in same ballpark but all the stories I hear about it suggest it was opportunistic whereas Sugar went out and got Klinsmann.

He met him on his yacht in Monaco
Something even Roman would be proud of

 

[billyiddo]

He really was and he was a World Cup winner. You also have to consider the context. When we signed Klinsmann, top foreign players didn't play in England. They played in Spain and Italy.

Sugar wasn't a great chairman for us on the whole but that really was a case of "To Dare is to Do" along with, to a lesser extent, the signings of Dumitrescu and Popescu. VDV may have been in same ballpark but all the stories I hear about it suggest it was opportunistic whereas Sugar went out and got Klinsmann.

I thought the Klinsmann story was that Sugar happened to be yachting in Monaco and met him through chance?

 

[parklane1]

Is it a mess?
I don’t get that

No your right its not a mess, but you know some fans seem to think they could do better. GHod forbid.

 

[Mcfee]

who now buys at the top ?
I don’t think anyone does now
What everyone wants is the 22 year old who has 3/4 seasons behind them and 150 games in the top level
I think there is a dearth of superstars to buy
Wirtz is the next big mover but he is at a big club and would be joining someone bigger
United have been kinda buying rejects and they were the epitome of buying the proven ones with the developing ones under fergie
Madrid have stopped buying Galacticos

Madrid bought (or acquired) Mbappé when they didn’t really need him. Not going well apparently.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

Madrid bought (or acquired) Mbappé when they didn’t really need him. Not going well apparently.

Yep
Strange that
No genes are buying names or laying down big fees
Even Chelsea have stopped for now

 

[Bishop]

He was a player who had had lean seasons in both Italy and France, and had some injury issues.

I’m sure other clubs passed on him before we got there.

VDV definitely in the ball park, and as I said earlier, Rebrov and Soldado too. Berbatov would be another example.

Rebrov and especially Soldadao bloody wasn't. I actually followed La Liga heavily at the time, at no point was Soldadao rated or considered the same level of player as a Klinsmann, that is total gas. Likewise Rebrov was the creative one in the Shevenchnko partnership but no way was he ever considered one of Europe's elite, it was thought he might make it but he was not that calibre of player. Your memory is playing tricks with you. Berbatov was a good player but one who wasn't considered decisive enough again, not a player that was considered top class before we signed him. Van Der Vaart I'll give you but only in reputation not his performances at the time before he joined us, he hadn't lived up to his early promise.

 

[Bishop]

who now buys at the top ?
I don’t think anyone does now
What everyone wants is the 22 year old who has 3/4 seasons behind them and 150 games in the top level
I think there is a dearth of superstars to buy
Wirtz is the next big mover but he is at a big club and would be joining someone bigger
United have been kinda buying rejects and they were the epitome of buying the proven ones with the developing ones under fergie
Madrid have stopped buying Galacticos

City, Real, Barca etc. top of the market doesn't mean 28 years old. It just means the players who are considered at the top of the game and most desired. Real are still going for those players ie. Camavinga, Tchouaméni, Mbappe etc.

We aren't and never have tried for that calibre of player. We tend to go for the next rung down (or lower) and there's no shame in that, you cut your cloth accordingly. I'm just not going to pretend that we are going for the top brand players when we clearly aren't.

 

[Baleforce]

Rebrov and especially Soldadao bloody wasn't. I actually followed La Liga heavily at the time, at no point was Soldadao rated or considered the same level of player as a Klinsmann, that is total gas. Likewise Rebrov was the creative one in the Shevenchnko partnership but no way was he ever considered one of Europe's elite, it was thought he might make it but he was not that calibre of player. Your memory is playing tricks with you. Berbatov was a good player but one who wasn't considered decisive enough again, not a player that was considered top class before we signed him. Van Der Vaart I'll give you but only in reputation not his performances at the time before he joined us, he hasn't lived up to his early promise.

Look at the numbers for all of them in the three seasons prior to their signing.

But more than that, at the time Klinsmann was considered maybe past his best, he was in his 30's, injuries were becoming more prevalent. He was then what maybe Son is now.

 

[Bishop]

Look at the numbers for all of them in the three seasons prior to their signing.

But more than that, at the time Klinsmann was considered maybe past his best, he was in his 30's, injuries were becoming more prevalent. He was then what maybe Son is now.

I don't care about numbers, we are talking about their talent and their status. I agree with you Klinsmann was considered a bit past it absolutely and that helped us get him, but as a player, career and status wise he was worlds apart from Rebrov, Soldadao and Berbatov before we bought them.

Klinsmann was still considered quite a an accomplishment to sign as players of his statute just didn't play in the PL at the time. A World Cup winner in an era when that was considered the pinnacle of football, I'm sorry but I'm just not having you compare him to flipping Rebrov and bloody Soldado.

 

[DeanoAustin]

Look at the numbers for all of them in the three seasons prior to their signing.

But more than that, at the time Klinsmann was considered maybe past his best, he was in his 30's, injuries were becoming more prevalent. He was then what maybe Son is now.

Na, not having that. Don't bother about stats. Klinsmann was considered a world star at the time. Anyone who watched football knew who he was and had seen him play because he'd done it at the very, very highest level. He was a World Cup winner and had been successful in the toughest (particularly for attacking players) and best league in the world at the time.

Prior to joining us, I'd never seen Soldado or Berbatov playing. Now, you might say that's my ignorance, which is true to a degree, but many of my mates were the same. In 1994, everyone knew who Klinsmann was. Klinsmann's profile and reputation was miles ahead of Berbatov, Soldado and Rebrov when he signed.

And that type of signing was pretty much unheard of in 1994.