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Daniel Levy - Chairman

lurker of old said:
ENIC and Levy are useless custodians - barely- competent deadweights who add no value to the club with their ownership. Do they take any away? No. Do they add any? Also no.
Now now! That is so OTT it is almost sarcasm! We have an amazing stadium which will bring in the revenues needed to compete with the top 4. OK so the Mourinho move was a very expensive mistake, and we need to replenish the squad, but we've been there before. The reason people are tinkled off is because Mou's appointment, coupled with early success on the pitch, raised expectations. Now we are all disappointed and down in the dumps, but we'll revive, and next season's team will be more organised. We may not have all of today's superstars next season but a decent manager should improve the team....
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To be fair we must remember that some have been against ENIC since way before Jose.
 
lurker of old said:
ENIC and Levy are useless custodians - barely- competent deadweights who add no value to the club with their ownership. Do they take any away? No. Do they add any? Also no.
Now now! That is so OTT it is almost sarcasm! We have an amazing stadium which will bring in the revenues needed to compete with the top 4. OK so the Mourinho move was a very expensive mistake, and we need to replenish the squad, but we've been there before. The reason people are tinkled off is because Mou's appointment, coupled with early success on the pitch, raised expectations. Now we are all disappointed and down in the dumps, but we'll revive, and next season's team will be more organised. We may not have all of today's superstars next season but a decent manager should improve the team....
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I dont think Levy and Enic particularly care about winning as much as they care about the financial aspect of the club.

Things may change next season if fans are allowed back but I suspect levy will always rather go for plan d and below rather than fork out on players the manager actually targets.

If player A was successful and exactly what we need and what the manager wanted, Levy has always gone for a sub standard punt close to the end of his contract that can be had on a last minute of the transfer window deal.

You cannot argue that Levy has done wonders with the stadium and training ground build no doubt about it ... but when it comes to transfers he is a liability for both the team and the manager.

He expects managers to succeed against the odds which he makes harder by buying players at the last minute who take time to settle with the team having already spent the best part of the summer together.
 
Gazza said:
I dont think Levy and Enic particularly care about winning as much as they care about the financial aspect of the club.

Things may change next season if fans are allowed back but I suspect levy will always rather go for plan d and below rather than fork out on players the manager actually targets.

If player A was successful and exactly what we need and what the manager wanted, Levy has always gone for a sub standard punt close to the end of his contract that can be had on a last minute of the transfer window deal.

You cannot argue that Levy has done wonders with the stadium and training ground build no doubt about it ... but when it comes to transfers he is a liability for both the team and the manager.

He expects managers to succeed against the odds which he makes harder by buying players at the last minute who take time to settle with the team having already spent the best part of the summer together.
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Thing is the Levy plan was to build the infrastructure first. The stadium should coin us in money which will give Levy a greater chance of being able to get Target A. A sensible plan invest in the infrastructure that can help you spend more in the future. The bigger your budget the more likely you are at winning stuff in general.
Have mistakes been made by Levy on the football side. Of course but find me a football club that doesn’t make any. He’s mainly concentrated on the business side which should help us deliver the football side.
 
I still can’t reconcile how ENIC get the lions share of the credit for the overall trajectory of the club during their tenure, but they escape almost any criticism and are not at least partially responsible for the clubs lack of silverware. You can bet your life ENIC would take most (if not all) of the credit if we had won league titles and CL’s. In what other business or company does the head of the company not become answerable for the success of the company? Especially given how heavily involved Levy is in the football operations side of things. The company I work for is circa two to three hundred employees, possibly a clunky metaphor but that’s similar to my CEO also running the sales team and being operations director but having no responsibility to the overall position of the company.

I think even ENIC’s most churlish and ardent critics wouldn’t disagree they have grown the club exponentially off the pitch, whilst the managers (Poch and Redknapp) raised the profile on the pitch getting us to the champions league.

Id argue the next managerial appointment is the most crucial in Levy’s entire reign. The club needs to get back into the champions league. We need the revenue to continue to pay off the stadium as quickly as possible. He needs to appoint a manager who plays attractive but above all else, we need to start winning things. After 20 years, I find it quite strange how fans can be accused of being impatient or told to stop “crying” for suggesting ENIC should be answerable at the very least for a dearth of trophies or our sluggishness or lack of proactivity in the transfer market with both incomings and outgoings. We need to pick the right manager and back him. I’d also like ENIC to engage with the supporters and make it clear what the goals of the club are in the next 5 years. I don’t think that is being spoilt, entitled or brattish but I’m sure others will disagree :D
 
Jurgen the German said:
I still can’t reconcile how ENIC get the lions share of the credit for the overall trajectory of the club during their tenure, but they escape almost any criticism and are not at least partially responsible for the clubs lack of silverware. You can bet your life ENIC would take most (if not all) of the credit if we had won league titles and CL’s. In what other business or company does the head of the company not become answerable for the success of the company? Especially given how heavily involved Levy is in the football operations side of things. The company I work for is circa two to three hundred employees, possibly a clunky metaphor but that’s similar to my CEO also running the sales team and being operations director but having no responsibility to the overall position of the company.

I think even ENIC’s most churlish and ardent critics wouldn’t disagree they have grown the club exponentially off the pitch, whilst the managers (Poch and Redknapp) raised the profile on the pitch getting us to the champions league.

Id argue the next managerial appointment is the most crucial in Levy’s entire reign. The club needs to get back into the champions league. We need the revenue to continue to pay off the stadium as quickly as possible. He needs to appoint a manager who plays attractive but above all else, we need to start winning things. After 20 years, I find it quite strange how fans can be accused of being impatient or told to stop “crying” for suggesting ENIC should be answerable at the very least for a dearth of trophies or our sluggishness or lack of proactivity in the transfer market with both incomings and outgoings. We need to pick the right manager and back him. I’d also like ENIC to engage with the supporters and make it clear what the goals of the club are in the next 5 years. I don’t think that is being spoilt, entitled or brattish but I’m sure others will disagree :D
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They get almost universal stick on here for not backing Redknapp in that final window. A good percentage of posters criticise them for not backing Poch. I'm pro Levy but I think he fudged up royally on both occasions.

As for silverware, it has been underwhelming but you can't use that as a barometer in isolation. There is context. Chelsea and City won the lottery. There are 3 other clubs who are bigger than us. We were coming from a position of weakness (mediocre squad, average facilties and 10 years of never finishing top 6).

If you want to use a business analogy, it'd be like asking why HTC aren't as big as Apple and Samsung.
 
DeanoAustin said:
They get almost universal stick on here for not backing Redknapp in that final window. A good percentage of posters criticise them for not backing Poch. I'm pro Levy but I think he fudged up royally on both occasions.

As for silverware, it has been underwhelming but you can't use that as a barometer in isolation. There is context. Chelsea and City won the lottery. There are 3 other clubs who are bigger than us. We were coming from a position of weakness (mediocre squad, average facilties and 10 years of never finishing top 6).

If you want to use a business analogy, it'd be like asking why HTC aren't as big as Apple and Samsung.
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Yeah I have no issue with how ENIC have run the club off the pitch, in my defence I did acknowledge this in my previous post. The training ground and stadium among other things are first class. The infrastructure and foundations have been laid. That’s half of the equation. They can absolutely do better on the football side of things. I don’t think it is unreasonable to believe that. When people say Levy is a brilliant negotiator and businessmen, absolutely! I agree. But I’d push back to people who say he’s fine to carry on running the football side of things. I’d like him to take a step back and cede control to a DOF or sporting director whilst still having the overall control of the finances.
 
Well, Chelsea and City are in the CL final, Chelsea after sacking their coach midway through the season. Which we should have done, but we kept that odious, useless c*nt Mourinho for long enough that we missed out on literally every good manager available and now are scraping basement bargain bins like Potter and Parker.

Arsenal and United will probably be in the EL final unless Villarreal do the unlikely and hold on to their lead.

We could well see a summer where Chelsea win the CL, Arse win the EL, and we sell Kane to City and Son to...wherever.

At the end of it, everywhere but here, the page will hopefully have turned on ENIC - surely after that sort of utter nightmare of a summer, people will see what utterly useless wastes these people are and have been.

Surely?
 
DubaiSpur said:
Well, Chelsea and City are in the CL final, Chelsea after sacking their coach midway through the season. Which we should have done, but we kept that odious, useless c*nt Mourinho for long enough that we missed out on non-figuratively every good manager available and now are scraping basement bargain bins like Potter and Parker.

Arsenal and United will probably be in the EL final unless Villarreal do the unlikely and hold on to their lead.

We could well see a summer where Chelsea win the CL, Arse win the EL, and we sell Kane to City and Son to...wherever.

At the end of it, everywhere but here, the page will hopefully have turned on ENIC - surely after that sort of utter nightmare of a summer, people will see what utterly useless wastes these people are and have been.

Surely?
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Bloody hell, you do like to specialise in misery don't you. FFS give it a break. Either that or go and support fudging Chelsea or City, and take your pain in the back with you.
 
Spur of the moment said:
Bloody hell, you do like to specialise in misery don't you. FFS give it a break. Either that or go and support fudging Chelsea or City, and take your pain in the back with you.
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Nah mate. I'll be here at Spurs when ENIC leave.

Whether you will is an open question - do they own another club you can follow?

Don't like it, but it's the only response to the 'support Chelsea or City' posts. Go support ENIC and their CEO of the Year awards at their next club if you're so annoyed.
 
DubaiSpur said:
Nah mate. I'll be here at Spurs when ENIC leave.

Whether you will is an open question - do they own another club you can follow?

Don't like it, but it's the only response to the 'support Chelsea or City' posts. Go support ENIC and their CEO of the Year awards at their next club if you're so annoyed.
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I’m sure they probably don’t, but it does often come across like some fans love ENIC more than Spurs, or at the very least, love them equality which I find puzzling. Look at the reaction when Levy had to backtrack on the decision to furlough the non-playing staff. The disappointment was on a par with what happens when the team loses a match, except when we lose to Liverpool of course then it’s Armageddon, full on meltdown, asteroids hitting the earth hysteria.
 
Jurgen the German said:
Yeah I have no issue with how ENIC have run the club off the pitch, in my defence I did acknowledge this in my previous post. The training ground and stadium among other things are first class. The infrastructure and foundations have been laid. That’s half of the equation. They can absolutely do better on the football side of things. I don’t think it is unreasonable to believe that. When people say Levy is a brilliant negotiator and businessmen, absolutely! I agree. But I’d push back to people who say he’s fine to carry on running the football side of things. I’d like him to take a step back and cede control to a DOF or sporting director whilst still having the overall control of the finances.
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I think it’d be very difficult for anyone, pro or anti Levy, to argue against any of that.
 
Jurgen the German said:
I’m sure they probably don’t, but it does often come across like I think that I am a better football fan than the rest of you love ENIC more than Spurs, or at the very least, love them equality which I find puzzling. Look at the reaction when Levy had to backtrack on the decision to furlough the non-playing staff. The disappointment was on a par with what happens when the team loses a match, except when we lose to Liverpool of course then it’s Armageddon, full on meltdown, asteroids hitting the earth hysteria.
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I think from my POV, I was so invested in Levy and ENIC because I really believed in the idea of doing things the right way. Building something, not needing to win the lottery and cheat with oil money. I was happy to go along with every aspect of their plan because I thought it was really working, and I saw an end point. Poch then got us so close, it was like we'd found the perfect marriage between ENIC's plan and someone who could carry it out on the pitch.

But I think that might be why, the reason a lot of people were so invested in Poch is because he also believed in building something the right way, so I can see how ENIC had people invested in them in a similar way. I just personally got to the point where I think that even if the stadium increases revenues and puts us on a footing where we can spend more, under ENIC I don't think the intension is that we actually compete financially with the other top 6 clubs. I think we will stick to their rules, and while that means the numbers are bigger, it ultimately still probably won't be quite enough. I think we need our own big swinging owner to come in and take us on the next part of the journey. The stadium is done, they have increased the value of the asset and have protected our future, and increased our baseline. Now I'd just much rather someone else comes in to accelerate a path to success.

I just want to compete on an even footing with the clubs we aspire to challenge. I don't think there is honour or glory in 'doing it the right way' anymore. I think it just means it takes longer, if it ever happens at all. Even if we had a new owners willing to invest more, that merely levels the playing field, and I'm ok if we win trophies from a level playing field. I won't consider that cheating, I will consider it that we did what we needed to do to start winning, given everyone else has had a massive headstart.
 
I'm good with the Levynator running the show until the cows come home.

Spurs were an absolute, dissolute embarrassment until he arrived and began raising the club from mid-table mediocrity to perennial top four contenders.

He's done anything and everything to make the club competitive and I have no time for the Super League snivellers moaning and kvetching about that. We absolutely - relentlessly and shamelessly - have had to 'follow the money' in recent years in order to not just be competitive but to be viable.

As I've aged, I've not only learned to not give the first fcuk about what others - other than my wife and kids - think, but to appreciate the value of patience, persistence and playing the long game. Daniel Levy absolutely fits my perspective.
 
Honestly how about some balanced views? Levy seems to be like marmite.

He is not a GHod.
We could do worse.
We could do better.

He has built the stadium and the training ground to make us competitive vs lottery teams, richer teams ....

I think he deserves a chance to see what his intent is and how much he backs his choice in managers.
 
DubaiSpur said:
Well, Chelsea and City are in the CL final, Chelsea after sacking their coach midway through the season. Which we should have done, but we kept that odious, useless c*nt Mourinho for long enough that we missed out on non-figuratively every good manager available and now are scraping basement bargain bins like Potter and Parker.

Arsenal and United will probably be in the EL final unless Villarreal do the unlikely and hold on to their lead.

We could well see a summer where Chelsea win the CL, Arse win the EL, and we sell Kane to City and Son to...wherever.

At the end of it, everywhere but here, the page will hopefully have turned on ENIC - surely after that sort of utter nightmare of a summer, people will see what utterly useless wastes these people are and have been.

Surely?
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....and we end 5th to qualify for european TV rights - just how Levy planned it !

So the new coach gets a new project, a new rebuild and another new dawn !
 
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