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Daniel Levy - Chairman

Chrissivad said:
I don't think its that bad.

Timing was off, should have all been done after. Recognise the achievement of making the CL final and use that to build the next season on.
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Sports littered with stuff like this, Langer got players Rolex for just making the Ryder Cup and they went out and kicked the Yanks arse in the golf, its one of those after the event it looks like bad timing, had we won it would look genius. Players moans at receiving a watch..........great

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Chrissivad said:
I don't think its that bad.

Timing was off, should have all been done after. Recognise the achievement of making the CL final and use that to build the next season on.
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Yeah I personally would have just seen it for what it is, a nice gift for reaching the final of CL and recognition for an amazing run to the final - like you say, poor timing perhaps.

If this really affected the players to the extent this is hyped up to, it does nothing but confirm what a weak mentality our players had - if it was as upsetting as Lloris wants to make out, then there would have been a real 'I'll show Levy' attitude instead of putting in a pretty limp performance. But I don't buy it to be that big a deal, and more just the usual dramatic autobiography content that is required to sell.....
 
It's really not a good look either for Levy or the player tbh.
Levy clearly meant well, but at the same time it adds to the previous episodes when he just doesn't either act like a chairman who prioritises winning things or he doesn't quite get the tone right with certain actions.

Lloris, for all he might have a point in terms of Levy seemingly celebrating us just getting there, isn't really in a position to moan about how we got on in finals or mentality seeing as he could be seen at fault as anyone for our lack of trophies. Even in the world cup final he ballsed up for the Croatia second goal and luckily his France team was so good at the time it didn't matter. Wasn't he also at fault for Portugal's winning goal in the final of Euro 2016?
I also wonder if he mentions anything in the book about his drunk-driving charge or the real reason he didn't come out for the second half in the 6-1 mauling at Saudi Sportswashing Machine (sorry, i still don't buy the story that he was 'injured').

I guess Levy's lack of good sustained PR means he's an easy meal ticket for those publishing books (Pleat anyone?). Oh well..
 
SpiderSpurs said:
This is shocking!

We do all have one engraved memory, though. Four days before the final, Daniel Levy called us all together to announce that, with the support of a sponsor, we would each receive a luxury aviator watch from the club. At first, we were excited to see the elegant boxes. Then we opened them and discovered that he’d had the back of each timepiece engraved with the player’s name and ‘Champions League Finalist 2019’. ‘Finalist.’ Who does such a thing at a moment like this? I still haven’t got over it, and I’m not alone. If we’d won, he wouldn’t have asked for the watches back to have ‘Winner’ engraved instead.

I have considerable respect and esteem for the man and all he has done for the club as chairman – I got to know him – but there are things he is simply not sensitive to. As magnificent as the watch is, I have never worn it. I would have preferred there to be nothing on it. With an engraving like that, Levy couldn’t have been surprised if we had been 1–0 down after a couple of minutes: so it was written.
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That’s his “engraved memory” of the final? No wonder we put in such an insipid performance then. Pathetic.
 
harr1984 said:
Yeah I personally would have just seen it for what it is, a nice gift for reaching the final of CL and recognition for an amazing run to the final - like you say, poor timing perhaps.

If this really affected the players to the extent this is hyped up to, it does nothing but confirm what a weak mentality our players had - if it was as upsetting as Lloris wants to make out, then there would have been a real 'I'll show Levy' attitude instead of putting in a pretty limp performance. But I don't buy it to be that big a deal, and more just the usual dramatic autobiography content that is required to sell.....
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The revelation about the documentary is more worrying to me. The fact that it was given the go-ahead without any consultation with the manager or players seems very odd ...at best.

The watch incident on its own is perhaps not too concerning; it could be seen as being part of a pattern, though, of a man who is good at business but not so good at football business - and often at reading the room (remember the issues around furlough during covid, for example).
 
Mikey10 said:
The revelation about the documentary is more worrying to me. The fact that it was given the go-ahead without any consultation with the manager or players seems very odd ...at best.

The watch incident on its own is perhaps not too concerning; it could be seen as being part of a pattern, though, of a man who is good at business but not so good at football business - and often at reading the room (remember the issues around furlough during covid, for example).
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We should never have had the Amazon thing, that was a massive own goal
 
glorygloryeze said:
I guess Levy's lack of good sustained PR means he's an easy meal ticket for those publishing books (Pleat anyone?). Oh well..
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I've said this for a very long time. Levy's communication style always been his biggest weakness in leadership. He must have missed that management course.

I do think the comms and marketing of the club have improved considerably in the last couple of years though. They protect him from his clear weakness much better nowadays. I bet he'd still score really low in an empath test.

The watch fiasco reminds me the stadium delay communication. Somebody wrote a piece that put the NFL as the focus of the comm in the 1st paragraph. The Spurs fans and especially the season ticket holders weren't mentioned until the 5th paragraph. Now somebody wrote that, another person proof read it, and Levy probably read it and approved the publishing of it. None of them caught the clear errors in the way it was written and then wondered why the fans went crazy at Levy and the club. It was staring them in the face all along.

I think the watch thing is similar. It's not so much having a losers mentality. It's not having the common sense to read the room and know you're just about to make a howler. Sounds like Levy all over, even though his intentions were honourable.

As for Hugo, he should be more like Ronaldo. He's said his piece, so get that watch auctioned off and get the money to someone who needs it.
 
harr1984 said:
Yeah I personally would have just seen it for what it is, a nice gift for reaching the final of CL and recognition for an amazing run to the final - like you say, poor timing perhaps.

If this really affected the players to the extent this is hyped up to, it does nothing but confirm what a weak mentality our players had - if it was as upsetting as Lloris wants to make out, then there would have been a real 'I'll show Levy' attitude instead of putting in a pretty limp performance. But I don't buy it to be that big a deal, and more just the usual dramatic autobiography content that is required to sell.....
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Is t he right answer.
 
glorygloryeze said:
It's really not a good look either for Levy or the player tbh.
Levy clearly meant well, but at the same time it adds to the previous episodes when he just doesn't either act like a chairman who prioritises winning things or he doesn't quite get the tone right with certain actions.

Lloris, for all he might have a point in terms of Levy seemingly celebrating us just getting there, isn't really in a position to moan about how we got on in finals or mentality seeing as he could be seen at fault as anyone for our lack of trophies. Even in the world cup final he ballsed up for the Croatia second goal and luckily his France team was so good at the time it didn't matter. Wasn't he also at fault for Portugal's winning goal in the final of Euro 2016?
I also wonder if he mentions anything in the book about his drunk-driving charge or the real reason he didn't come out for the second half in the 6-1 mauling at Saudi Sportswashing Machine (sorry, i still don't buy the story that he was 'injured').

I guess Levy's lack of good sustained PR means he's an easy meal ticket for those publishing books (Pleat anyone?). Oh well..
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LLoris was the captain of a side that didn't turn up at the peak of their achievements, their moment for glory.

The watch story is fudging hilarious and typical nothing burger, here's a crazy idea, a watch sponsor came to the club (maybe both clubs) and offered a sponsorship and put finalists on the engraving because they wanted the players to wear it for the actual fudging final?

Spurs is always an easy pick because our fans eat it up .. never question anything that is said that is bricking on the club ..
 
Grays_1890 said:
We should never have had the Amazon thing, that was a massive own goal
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At the time I was apopleptic. Poch was totally ignored/not consulted. I knew it winter of 2018 into early 19 when the whole thing was quietly being planned. I believe it was a major, major contributor to the issues which built. Remember, Eriksen was tinkled off not to get a pay rise when Daniel trousered a fat bonus in 2018. I think Hugo's framing here is just an example of a long-running problem the players feel they saw.
 
I've found the Lloris comments really interesting. I think the stuff on the watch is being blown out of proportion. Lloris doesn't appear to be blaming the watch for losing, he places far more blame on the penalty decision, but he's mentioned it to illustrate how tone deaf Levy is when it comes to some things. Most posters on here, even his supporters, have said similar about him over the years. Great businessman, not so great when it comes to football.

The Amazon stuff is shocking to be honest. To not consult the manager or players...you could see how that'd create unrest even if it grows the club's brand. The Mourinho decision...again Lloris is only saying what most of us have said. Conte...very interesting that the players seemed to tune him out because of his intensity. He's also said both were a bad fit for the club...fine as long as we were winning but once results nosedived, it was always going to unravel quickly.

For me, nothing Lloris has said here is particularly out of order or surprising. It's just a bit of a reality check to hear a player actually say that the players were feeling what many of us thought they were feeling. And he has a book to sell so obviously these things will be blown up to grab the headlines.

Hugo will always be a club legend for me.
 
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