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Coronavirus

johnola said:
And yet I would clearly say they are a problem - but mostly for themselves and their closest contacts so you know, you takes your chances.
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The ons had protection from hospitalisation with being vaccinatedat 96%. So you are 20 times more likely to be hospitalised if unvaccinated and you catch the virus. Every bed thst is taken up by an unvaccinated person is one that can't be used for someone else. Whatever the illness. If all the beds are taken up then no more people can be treated.
So it is not just a problem for them or those close to them. It is a problem and possibly a death sentence to anyone who needs emergency care. Whether that be a car accident, heart attack, stroke, stabbing whatever.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopula...les/coronaviruscovid19latestinsights/vaccines
 
This is potentially interesting - one of the big mutations in Omicron appears to be that it's picked up some genetic material from a common cold virus. Which could explain why its evading immunity, but then only causing mild or asymptomatic infections

https://osf.io/f7txy/
 
Gutter Boy said:
This is potentially interesting - one of the big mutations in Omicron appears to be that it's picked up some genetic material from a common cold virus. Which could explain why its evading immunity, but then only causing mild or asymptomatic infections

https://osf.io/f7txy/
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It's causing mild symptoms mostly because most of the infected have been young, healthy individuals, so the data has been skewed. Hospitalizations are increasing everywhere, as the variant spreads to more vulnerable groups. And it's spreading fast. Very fast, and it will end in disaster if serious measures are not taken.
https://twitter.com/x/status/1466874636554100737
 
The hospitalisation in SA are generally being released in 2-3 days

Not 1 death anywhere (though I imagine someone is due to be run over soon somewhere, to get the tally started)

Not one serious case in the Norway cluster

Some new data suggesting it's been around in Europe since late August, but was mis-identified as reappearing alpha

So all the signs on severity are looking quite positive so far
 
Gutter Boy said:
The hospitalisation in SA are generally being released in 2-3 days

Not 1 death anywhere (though I imagine someone is due to be run over soon somewhere, to get the tally started)

Not one serious case in the Norway cluster

Some new data suggesting it's been around in Europe since late August, but was mis-identified as reappearing alpha

So all the signs on severity are looking quite positive so far
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As I said, the data so far is skewed because the vast majority of infected people have been young and healthy.
 
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Kandi1977 said:
It's causing mild symptoms mostly because most of the infected have been young, healthy individuals, so the data has been skewed. Hospitalizations are increasing everywhere, as the variant spreads to more vulnerable groups. And it's spreading fast. Very fast, and it will end in disaster if serious measures are not taken.
https://twitter.com/x/status/1466874636554100737
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20.4% of south africas population is hiv positive.
Only 24% of the population is vaccinated.
Random testing in jo'burg came back 20% positive.
The virus has been confirmed to be in nigeria since october.
Over 38 countries have cases.
Cases in the uk alone are in the hundreds.
Not a single death yet reported.

Reasons for concern but reasons for optimism.
 
Gutter Boy said:
The hospitalisation in SA are generally being released in 2-3 days

Not 1 death anywhere (though I imagine someone is due to be run over soon somewhere, to get the tally started)

Not one serious case in the Norway cluster

Some new data suggesting it's been around in Europe since late August, but was mis-identified as reappearing alpha

So all the signs on severity are looking quite positive so far
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there’s something like a 30 day lag on average, from catching it to reported/ registered deaths. Nowhere near enough time to see how harmful this is, especially using deaths so far as a metric.
 
Hashegotthesackyet? said:
there’s something like a 30 day lag on average, from catching it to reported/ registered deaths. Nowhere near enough time to see how harmful this is, especially using deaths so far as a metric.
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Tell them in sa. The admissions so far have been mostly incidental. They are not there for covid, they just have been tested when admitted and found positive. Majority have not required oxygen. Yes we need a couple of weeks to fully assess, but early indicators are very promissing.

https://www.lusakatimes.com/2021/12/05/345427/
 
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