Coronavirus

[Gilzeantoscore]

Clearly Scara is loved and revered by his workers.

 

[scaramanga]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1318863571435065345

I'm not overly keen on that sampling methodology.

Subjects were chosen from users of a self reporting symptoms app to measure occurrences of an ailment that can only be measured by self reported symptoms.

I'm trying to think of a polite way of describing the kind of people who would use a self reporting symptoms app and their likelihood of accurately reporting any lack of illness, but I can't.

 

[scaramanga]

Sooner people forget about xmas the better, its around the corner and without a Chinese/Spanish style lockdown, the death rate will be far too high. Spending xmas your family will be potentially given the a death sentence as a gift.

Which should be up to families to decide on.

We will be seeing our family and doing what we normally do. No way will we let this get in the way of normal life.

 

[LutonSpurs]

Over the summer we were told by the masses to accept we can't see our family for Eid and just get on with it. Love how the rules change for Xmas.

 

[Diamond Lights]

Govt missed a trick not using half term for a national lockdown. Can only see us eventually heading towards one as the process isn't working.

Also, Tier 2, what's the point? Literally out in the streets and restaurants absolutely nothing has changed, how many Tier 2s move to Tier 1s vs Tier 3? Just pointless.

 

[scaramanga]

Over the summer we were told by the masses to accept we can't see our family for Eid and just get on with it. Love how the rules change for Xmas.

Genuine question, does anyone non-religious celebrate Eid? The only people I've ever known celebrate it were.

As a fervent atheist, I still celebrate Christmas (or Slightly Delayed ex-Pagan Winter Solstice Festival as it's known in our house), as a drinking, eating, presents and family occasion. We just don't celebrate fairy stories about a slapper getting knocked up as a kid or her cuck husband who couldn't even provide a proper roof over her head.

I know that's the case from plenty of others too. Never heard of a secular aspect to Eid.

 

[glasgowspur]

Over the summer we were told by the masses to accept we can't see our family for Eid and just get on with it. Love how the rules change for Xmas.

I think religious festivals and family or community gathering are a better way to control and police this than the way been handled.

Family, friends and communities are much more likely too look after each other than some nameless faceless taco with a badge and a complex.

Larger but tighter bubbles based on these lines would have been more effective and had a better level of adherence than the stupid multi level, every changing nonsense we are getting now.

Not a religious person, but they could have been utilised much better than they have been. But that would require giving up power, and its beginning to look like that is what all this is really about.

 

[ricky2tricky4city]

Over a much longer time scale the isolated tribes of the world were the ones who suffered most from viruses, sometimes wiping out peoples because they had no immunity. The ‘organic’ way is to let the young get the virus and let nature do its thing. We don’t understand it fully, but the chances are if you get Covid as a kid - possibly a few times - you are maybe not going to be as vulnerable in later life. Again we don’t know but maybe those who get Covid bad now are people who didn’t have some exposure to similar viruses previously.

There's certainly some valuable information to be drawn out of why there has been so many asymptomatic cases.

Surely it suggests a large number of people already have the immunity that ideally everyone needs?

Is that immunity built up from recovery from similar Covid strains in the past?

 

[glasgowspur]

That's precisely what it is.

So, as it seems to be an argument of herd immunity over vaccination and vice versa what's the rationale?
Is it not the same end reach by different roads?

 

[Diamond Lights]

Germany moving to full 'lite' lockdown it seems.

 

[scaramanga]

So, as it seems to be an argument of herd immunity over vaccination and vice versa what's the rationale?
Is it not the same end reach by different roads?

Vaccines are by far a better option as they're safer and more controlled.

The choice isn't between vaccine and natural immunity, it's between waiting for a vaccine that may never come (despite recent advancements) and natural immunity.

 

[LutonSpurs]

Genuine question, does anyone non-religious celebrate Eid? The only people I've ever known celebrate it were.

As a fervent atheist, I still celebrate Christmas (or Slightly Delayed ex-Pagan Winter Solstice Festival as it's known in our house), as a drinking, eating, presents and family occasion. We just don't celebrate fairy stories about a slapper getting knocked up as a kid or her cuck husband who couldn't even provide a proper roof over her head.

I know that's the case from plenty of others too. Never heard of a secular aspect to Eid.

So my family is a mix of religious folk, then some like me who practise but aren't religious and some people who are not religious at all and just culturally Muslim. We do presents and food and fall asleep in the afternoon.

So it is more and more common that it's very much a cultural celebration and not only for the religious types. Although some of us do go for morning prayers but not all. Mostly it's about the kids and the grandparents and the big get together really.

 

[glasgowspur]

So my family is a mix of religious folk, then some like me who practise but aren't religious and some people who are not religious at all and just culturally Muslim. We do presents and food and fall asleep in the afternoon.

So it is more and more common that it's very much a cultural celebration and not only for the religious types. Although some of us do go for morning prayers but not all. Mostly it's about the kids and the grandparents and the big get together really.

That sounds fun, can we all come next year?

 

[LutonSpurs]

That sounds fun, can we all come next year?

Haha it is a load of fun. And our food is amazing. Lahori breakfast of Nihaari and Naan and then Halwa Puri. Lunch of Samosas, Lamb chops and Biryani with various desserts.

Presents are opened in the afternoon. My Mrs still insists on a cash gift.

We wear our best clothes too.

It really is a load of fun.

As we have 2 each year we do one with my family and one with her lot.

This year we are going to use Xmas to celebrate and get together as we know they won't stop the indigenous folk having their cultural fun.

 

[glasgowspur]

Haha it is a load of fun. And our food is amazing. Lahori breakfast of Nihaari and Naan and then Halwa Puri. Lunch of Samosas, Lamb chops and Biryani with various desserts.

Presents are opened in the afternoon. My Mrs still insists on a cash gift.

We wear our best clothes too.

It really is a load of fun.

As we have 2 each year we do one with my family and one with her lot.

This year we are going to use Xmas to celebrate and get together as we know they won't stop the indigenous folk having their cultural fun.

This is the stuff of dreams atm, all things that make life worth living and we are being robbed of. Not getting into the why or who of that BTW before any one jumps on me.

Enjoy it man, and I hope that whatever each and everyone choose is the right thing for them to do this year they get something good out of it.
Let's face it, we all need and probably deserve it.

 

[Grays_1890]

There's certainly some valuable information to be drawn out of why there has been so many asymptomatic cases.

Surely it suggests a large number of people already have the immunity that ideally everyone needs?

Is that immunity built up from recovery from similar Covid strains in the past?

Would explain London

 

[awesome dawson]

Which should be up to families to decide on.

We will be seeing our family and doing what we normally do. No way will we let this get in the way of normal life.

Exactly the sort of attitude which will see thousands dying over the December and January months. Same attitude that saw the north of england refuse to have their precious pubs taken away from them so they can share notes in the bathrooms and then take the virus home to granny. Classic combination of selfishness and stupidity, commonly seen in mid western US towns and encouraged by the taco about to be kicked out the White House.

 

[scaramanga]

So my family is a mix of religious folk, then some like me who practise but aren't religious and some people who are not religious at all and just culturally Muslim. We do presents and food and fall asleep in the afternoon.

So it is more and more common that it's very much a cultural celebration and not only for the religious types. Although some of us do go for morning prayers but not all. Mostly it's about the kids and the grandparents and the big get together really.

At the risk of delving too far into semantics, what's the difference between a religious person and someone who practises but isn't?

At the risk of simplifying things too much, I'd consider someone who does religious things to be a religious person.

If Eid is generally celebrated by non-religious types too, then I suppose the only remaining difference is that this whole country shuts down for Christmas so that people can see families.

 

[scaramanga]

Exactly the sort of attitude which will see thousands dying over the December and January months. Same attitude that saw the north of england refuse to have their precious pubs taken away from them so they can share notes in the bathrooms and then take the virus home to granny. Classic combination of selfishness and stupidity, commonly seen in mid western US towns and encouraged by the taco about to be kicked out the White House.

You could have been far more succinct and just described those people as "not sheep."

 

[Mikey10]

Bristol moving into ‘Tier 1 plus‘.

They are actually trolling us all now.