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Coronavirus

Grays_1890 said:
I prefer an open lockdown where people are actually abiding by the rules.

The reason Unis are so badly impacted is because the idiots are going What do you expect we are students ermmmm no you are not you are adults and you are expected to act like one during a pandemic

People know that carehomes are a killing hub but you see idiots on tele saying they will not be stopped going to see their loved ones, ahhhhh thats nice, sentiment over sense.

Ultimately 70% of hospital admissions are of those within the dangerzone age wise or with secondary illness so like its been said on here umpteen times, you protect the old and vulnerable and you help the rest of the world go back to work in a safe environment to avoid the ever rising cases of suicide, child abuse, abuse, mental health issues and long term unemployment and poverty
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This is pretty spot on - only thing I would say is with the students there is no harm as long as they are staying together.

Stats in the states is 2 people have gone to hospital out of 70,000 cases - they went back about a month earlier.

would those people go to a care home with flu/cold? fudging idiots

Grays_1890 said:
Yep we are looking at winding down the next phase of our company because of it. We are just not going to survive this
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A lot of people are about to get a letter saying they no longer have a job, some of those will be in areas they thought were safe - insurance due to less travel/Businesses etc
 
Legohamster said:
A lot of people are about to get a letter saying they no longer have a job, some of those will be in areas they thought were safe - insurance due to less travel/Businesses etc
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The thing is we are going to make approx 30 people redundant in time for Christmas.

All that with the prospect of Covid hanging about too
 
More restrictions coming into effect in Scotland for a couple of weeks. Maybe gives an indication of what's to come across the wider UK?

New measures:
Pubs, bars, restaurants and cafes will only be allowed to open indoors between 6am-6pm for food and non-alcoholic beverages.
  • Outdoor bars and restaurants can continue until 10pm and sell alcohol
  • Exceptions will be made for life events such as weddings already booked and funerals.
  • No mandatory travel restrictions
  • Gyms can stay open
The restrictions will come into force at 6pm on Friday and are intended to end after 25 October.

Some areas have tighter restrictions
Even more restrictions to hospitality in certain areas

Pubs and licensed cafes in five Scottish health board areas - Greater Glasgow & Clyde, Lanarkshire, Ayrshire & Arran, Lothian and Forth Valley - must shut to all but takeaway customers for more than two weeks from Friday, Nicola Sturgeon has announced.

New funds will be available for business affected by the 16-day additional measures.
 
Glenda's Legs said:
More restrictions coming into effect in Scotland for a couple of weeks. Maybe gives an indication of what's to come across the wider UK?

New measures:
Pubs, bars, restaurants and cafes will only be allowed to open indoors between 6am-6pm for food and non-alcoholic beverages.
  • Outdoor bars and restaurants can continue until 10pm and sell alcohol
  • Exceptions will be made for life events such as weddings already booked and funerals.
  • No mandatory travel restrictions
  • Gyms can stay open
The restrictions will come into force at 6pm on Friday and are intended to end after 25 October.

Some areas have tighter restrictions
Even more restrictions to hospitality in certain areas

Pubs and licensed cafes in five Scottish health board areas - Greater Glasgow & Clyde, Lanarkshire, Ayrshire & Arran, Lothian and Forth Valley - must shut to all but takeaway customers for more than two weeks from Friday, Nicola Sturgeon has announced.

New funds will be available for business affected by the 16-day additional measures.
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We're off to Edinburgh on the 26th for a week for half term
Guess we can still go currently
 
Recap: What are Scotland's new restrictions?


Here’s a recap of what First Minister Nicola Sturgeon has announced this afternoon:

  • All pubs and restaurants across central Scotland - including in Glasgow and Edinburgh - are to be closed to all but takeaway customers
  • The five health board areas affected by the strictest rules are: Greater Glasgow and Clyde, Lanarkshire, Forth Valley, Lothian and Ayrshire and Arran
  • People in these areas are also being asked to avoid public transport
  • In other areas, licensed premises will be able to open until 6pm - but can only serve alcohol outdoors
  • The rules come into force at 18:00 on Friday and will be in place until 25 October
  • Cafes which do not have an alcohol licence will be able to stay open until 18:00
  • Snooker and pool halls, indoor bowling alleys, casinos and bingo halls will also close in the five health board areas for two weeks from 10 October
  • And contact sports for people aged 18 and over will be suspended for the next two weeks - with an exception for professional sports
  • Gyms can remain open for individual exercise
 
LutonSpurs said:
I am really sorry to hear this. The government should extend furlough at the minimum and do more to help businesses.
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Thanks pal

Honestly it would not help us, we have sat with our accountants and without the opportunity to cultivate business furlough is just a holding pattern to the same outcome.

If we clicked our fingers today and said we were back to work full strength we would need that time to get back to where we were, maybe longer.

The longer the team were off albeit with furlough was a knife in the company

This current, lockdown/not lockdown situation is suffocating the life out the country in my opinion
 
Sturgeon has lost it.

she’s doing her bit to keep the Union together.

Nothing but an agenda and she tried to shift the job loses onto the U.K. gov.
 
Glenda's Legs said:
Recap: What are Scotland's new restrictions?


Here’s a recap of what First Minister Nicola Sturgeon has announced this afternoon:

  • All pubs and restaurants across central Scotland - including in Glasgow and Edinburgh - are to be closed to all but takeaway customers
  • The five health board areas affected by the strictest rules are: Greater Glasgow and Clyde, Lanarkshire, Forth Valley, Lothian and Ayrshire and Arran
  • People in these areas are also being asked to avoid public transport
  • In other areas, licensed premises will be able to open until 6pm - but can only serve alcohol outdoors
  • The rules come into force at 18:00 on Friday and will be in place until 25 October
  • Cafes which do not have an alcohol licence will be able to stay open until 18:00
  • Snooker and pool halls, indoor bowling alleys, casinos and bingo halls will also close in the five health board areas for two weeks from 10 October
  • And contact sports for people aged 18 and over will be suspended for the next two weeks - with an exception for professional sports
  • Gyms can remain open for individual exercise
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By her own admission 1 in 5 cases are suspected to be from hospitality. What about the other four?
They are probably coming from students, young people who are barely affected.

Not 10 days the SG complained about the police having to break up over 100 large house parties per weekend, and that's when the pubs were open. Do they really think closing the pubs is going to lower the house partues.

What a bunch of cretins.

And call me a cynical bugger but it's a bit to convenient that they do this on the day she remembers that she forgot about a meeting where she was told about her ex party leader and mentor of 30 years was being accused of sexual assault. Again.
 
monkeybarry said:
I don't think the numbers and length of data sets are robust enough to extrapolate effectively at all and would I be advising senior management to start thinking about potential action plans whilst we continue to watch the data - it's in the emerging phase and anecdotal; that is the point at which you start to focus data collection to see what/if the real picture is.

It's not something to currently panic about, but it is something to put on the risk register (currently low probability, medium/high impact, with the caveat of insufficient data) and monitor very closely.
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Given the fact that it effects so few people I'd consider both aspects very low risk.
 
glasgowspur said:
By her own admission 1 in 5 cases are suspected to be from hospitality. What about the other four?
They are probably coming from students, young people who are barely affected.

Not 10 days the SG complained about the police having to break up over 100 large house parties per weekend, and that's when the pubs were open. Do they really think closing the pubs is going to lower the house partues.

What a bunch of cretins.

And call me a cynical bugger but it's a bit to convenient that they do this on the day she remembers that she forgot about a meeting where she was told about her ex party leader and mentor of 30 years was being accused of sexual assault. Again.
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It's got to be easier to monitor the compliance of pubs and enforce rules (as long as resources are funded) compared to monitoring people gathering behind closed doors.
Governments have no idea how to react and hospitality is an easy target to say 'look, we're doing something".
 
Is there any positive news from other countries yet? The UK was always behind the trend of the rest of the EU, Whats happening with them? Are any of them seeing a decline in their second waves yet?
 
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