monkeybarry
Jack Jull
Indeed.
It will be fascinating.
We will genuinely have a choice of social change and real Costs to decide against.
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Coronavirus
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It will be fascinating.
We will genuinely have a choice of social change and real Costs to decide against.
markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
The World Bank says it has launched a $1.9bn (£1.5bn) emergency fund to help 25 countries with their response to the coronavirus pandemic. It said it was moving quickly on projects in 40 other nations.
India will receive the largest amount of funding - $1bn - to improve screening, tracing and laboratory diagnostics. The money will also go towards procuring personal protective equipment and to setting up isolation wards.
The bank said funding would go to countries on nearly every continent. Other beneficiaries include Pakistan, which will receive $200m, and Afghanistan which will get over $100m.
In addition, the World Bank said it was working to redeploy $1.7bn of existing funds and was prepared to spend up to $160bn over the next 15 months to help fight the pandemic.
India will receive the largest amount of funding - $1bn - to improve screening, tracing and laboratory diagnostics. The money will also go towards procuring personal protective equipment and to setting up isolation wards.
The bank said funding would go to countries on nearly every continent. Other beneficiaries include Pakistan, which will receive $200m, and Afghanistan which will get over $100m.
In addition, the World Bank said it was working to redeploy $1.7bn of existing funds and was prepared to spend up to $160bn over the next 15 months to help fight the pandemic.
Modric THFC
Jimmy McCormick
One of the grimmest things I've ever watched
SpurMeUp
Les Howe
First containing, then ventilators, next testing...our government has been reacting in each instance, 'behind of the curve'.
Next will be Hydroxychloroquine a drug to treat hyper inflammation, which is what coronavirus seems to cause. Other countries have had success with this drug. If case studies stand up to scrutiny, the UK government need to be ready to scrap usual testing and fast track this drugs use. It has been tested in humans of course, and even if it works only in 10% of cases, masses of lives can be saved.
Next will be Hydroxychloroquine a drug to treat hyper inflammation, which is what coronavirus seems to cause. Other countries have had success with this drug. If case studies stand up to scrutiny, the UK government need to be ready to scrap usual testing and fast track this drugs use. It has been tested in humans of course, and even if it works only in 10% of cases, masses of lives can be saved.
Mikey10
Jimmy Neighbour
Without doubt there are going to be some very serious questions for the government to answer when things stabilise. And - very soon and at last - there might just be an opposition leader up to asking them.
Something has definitely gone wrong when The Daily Telegraph are being as critical as they are of a Tory government in the midst of a national emergency.
Danishfurniturelover
the prettiest spice girl
Well i fudging smashed it today. Cycled 50 miles and done my weights. Got to fight and be strong tiring but good.
The is only one way to live and that is with strength. Hope i can start to put on some weight soon cos it feels weird being as skinny as fcuk.
The is only one way to live and that is with strength. Hope i can start to put on some weight soon cos it feels weird being as skinny as fcuk.
Danishfurniturelover
the prettiest spice girl
Think on the whole they will be given a pass if they were following scientific advice. Big lessons will have been learnt for the future.
Most crucial might actually be how they pay for all this. So taxing companies who dont actually pay tax would be a good start.
markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
No more free passes
They've been following expert advice at all time. They could have taken a punt on things against advice, but that's not how large scale healthcare decisions work in real countries.
Again, not how large scale public health decisions are made (outside of joke govts like China and Russia).
So far I've only heard you and Trump advocate the use of this drug - that's not a great pool of minds to find yourself in.
It's not so much a question of whether or not it works (and we're far from sure of that), it's about the drug's interactions with other pre-existing conditions, other drugs, etc. It can't be used long-term, so when in the infection cycle to we introduce it? When is it safe to stop it? We know the answer to these questions when it's prescribed as an antimalarial medicine, not as an emergency treatment for respiratory distress.
Some people trialling a drug is a very, very long way away from responsible govts using it on a large scale.
Mikey10
Jimmy Neighbour
The Republic of Ireland are going to now have to get their tax house in order more than most other places. They were broke before all this started.
SteveAWOL
Chris Jones
Rorschach
Sonny Walters
Irish finances were in OK shape pre-virus. Brexit was going to sting but the virus will hit the exchequer revenue far harder, as it will everywhere.
Mikey10
Jimmy Neighbour
SpurMeUp
Les Howe
If you were dying, and this drug has been found to save people’s lives in countries that are ‘ahead of our curve’ would you like to try it?
I’m not arguing rights or wrongs. There is a pattern with the government reacting to the media. First it reacted to change to a containment approach. Then to stats and outrage re. Ventilators and testing. Next, will it be the use of this and another drug which has had some success?
Point is, in such a crisis being ahead of events, preparing rather than reacting, saves many lives and many billions.
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Parklaner81
Steve Hodge
Was that a reaction to the media, or a reaction to scientific/academic advice?
SteveAWOL
Chris Jones
Baleforce
Arthur Rowe
SpurMeUp
Les Howe
Reacting to the media, public opinion and NHS mainly.
"Science" this thing we supposedly defer all rational logic and judgment to, is not what it seems. There isn't a science room you walk into and get 'the definitive answer'. Science is better at analysis of past events, and when you boil what 'science' means in this context it is someone scratching around with whatever data available, trying to come to a logical conclusion (no different to anyone else).
More useful is a war-like approach to crisis preparation. Longer-term, to improve testing, find drugs and vaccines, science is the only answer. But to ensure the right emergency approach, for example, to get the logistical task of testing people working, an army-like or private enterprise-like approach is probably more effective than a professor.
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