Contingency planning : When Ange is sacked, who should replace him?

[thfcsteff]

It wasn't a good point tbh.

i think his general point is that denigrating cup runs based on how someone values the opposition during a run is somewhat asinine. I mean, really? What's the point? You can only beat who you play, and no cup run is rich wioth top level talent. In fact, the group stages of the CL are often comprised largely of 'Europa' and less standard clubs.

I think some people are just anchored in negativity and cannot allow themselves a little bit of hope and joy. A shame.

 

[RigorMortis]

i think his general point is that denigrating cup runs based on how someone values the opposition during a run is somewhat asinine. I mean, really? What's the point? You can only beat who you play, and no cup run is rich wioth top level talent. In fact, the group stages of the CL are often comprised largely of 'Europa' and less standard clubs.

I think some people are just anchored in negativity and cannot allow themselves a little bit of hope and joy. A shame.

It’s not really devaluing the cup run though is it. It’s comparing the merits of two managers based on their performances.
In that respect the job Glasner has done is superior to Ange.

It doesn’t mean I would prefer to win the FA cup over the Europa League

 

[thfcsteff]

It’s not really devaluing the cup run though is it. It’s comparing the merits of two managers based on their performances.
In that respect the job Glasner has done is superior to Ange.

It doesn’t mean I would prefer to win the FA cup over the Europa League

I have to ask, why would we compare the two? I genuinely don't understand why people would go there for that comparison...

...but I'll join in LOL!!!
Glasner has done a very good job all-told. I think the circumstances he walked into with Palace -the expectations versus what was already in place set-up wise versus injuries versus style of play- are all contextual factors in the good job he's done. He also enjoyed that vital slice of luck on Saturday which every manager needs in Finals. His keeper remained on the pitch when he should've been sent-off (not that I was complaining LOL). On paper -stats and all that- it is impossible to argue that Glasner has not done a better job than Ange. What I would say is the job Glasner had to do versus the job Ange was given on arrival are two very different beasts.

 

[harr1984]

i think his general point is that denigrating cup runs based on how someone values the opposition during a run is somewhat asinine. I mean, really? What's the point? You can only beat who you play, and no cup run is rich wioth top level talent. In fact, the group stages of the CL are often comprised largely of 'Europa' and less standard clubs.

I think some people are just anchored in negativity and cannot allow themselves a little bit of hope and joy. A shame.

I can't envisage any other clubs fans who haven't won a trophy for over 15 years having this conversation about a major European trophy but Spurs fans? Of course they will, and this is why almost any manager who comes here will be destined to fail....

 

[DTA]

I have to ask, why would we compare the two? I genuinely don't understand why people would go there for that comparison...

...but I'll join in LOL!!!
Glasner has done a very good job all-told. I think the circumstances he walked into with Palace -the expectations versus what was already in place set-up wise versus injuries versus style of play- are all contextual factors in the good job he's done. He also enjoyed that vital slice of luck on Saturday which every manager needs in Finals. His keeper remained on the pitch when he should've been sent-off (not that I was complaining LOL). On paper -stats and all that- it is impossible to argue that Glasner has not done a better job than Ange. What I would say is the job Glasner had to do versus the job Ange was given on arrival are two very different beasts.

Very different but whether on paper or just the eye test, one has woefully underperformed given the resources at his disposal and one has over pro-formed.

I don’t hate Ange, I really wanted him to be a massive success here, I love his story and his background, his relationship with his father I see echos of my own in. His southern Mediterranean immigrant background, and the accompanying work ethic, even links to Australia. And then those first 10 games wow… and even the Chelsea game.

I think only one man on this board wanted him to succeed more than I did at that point. But I kept the faith all the way to the Leicester game… but that game brought it home to me that he is not good enough at this level, he just isn’t, it’s been said before that we a very lucky that 3 teams below us are so bad because if they weren’t we were in a very real danger of being relegated.

But no you say, we would have then shifted focus to the league and played better… I have seen no evidence of us being able to play better, not since he has been figured out anyway.

So unless Ange is a complete tactical genius and has been playing Rope a dope this whole time playing is such a limp way in the league to null cup opposition in to a false sense of security and we go on to beat Utd comfortably. his tenure here has been very nearly disastrous, and by any measure a failure.

 

[thfcsteff]

Very different but whether on paper or just the eye test, one has woefully underperformed given the resources at his disposal and one has over pro-formed.

I don’t hate Ange, I really wanted him to be a massive success here, I love his story and his background, his relationship with his father I see echos of my own in. His southern Mediterranean immigrant background, and the accompanying work ethic, even links to Australia. And then those first 10 games wow… and even the Chelsea game.

I think only one man on this board wanted him to succeed more than I did at that point. But I kept the faith all the way to the Leicester game… but that game brought it home to me that he is not good enough at this level, he just isn’t, it’s been said before that we a very lucky that 3 teams below us are so bad because if they weren’t we were in a very real danger of being relegated.

But no you say, we would have then shifted focus to the league and played better… I have seen no evidence of us being able to play better, not since he has been figured out anyway.

So unless Ange is a complete tactical genius and has been playing Rope a dope this whole time playing is such a limp way in the league to null cup opposition in to a false sense of security and we go on to beat Utd comfortably. his tenure here has been very nearly disastrous, and by any measure a failure.

It's certainly an opinion. I have my own (which will surprise some people I feel). I think my enduring point at this specific moment in time is why this particular conversation is actually being had?

I mean, are people genuinely afraid that no-one will talk about our Premiership season ever again if/when we win on Wed? It certainly seems that way.