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Contingency planning : When Ange is sacked, who should replace him?

Finney Is Back said:
My guess:
Loaned: Keeley, Dorrington, Vuskovic, Abbott, Hall, Donley, Devine, Lankshear.
I still think this above list gets a lot more from playing competitive men's football than youth games and the odd cameo. It is possible that Keeley, Abbot, Devine, Donley and Vuskovic all get loans at a better level than they got this season.

Sold/released: Craig and Scarlett (though I think we might put a buy-back option for Scarlett him just in case)

Kept: Gray, Bergval, Moore, Veliz, Yang, Phillips.
Gray and Bergval will get a decent number of games next year.
Moore will still get a reasonable number of minutes next year and I think a loan for him is risky in terms of the treatment he'd get in the lower leagues.
Phillips I am 50/50 on keep versus loan. It would be useful to have him in the squad next season but his (and perhaps our) future is probably better served playing a whole season at championship level. Perhaps he'll have a loan with a recall clause for January?
I think Veliz may be kept as third choice number 9 (as our game-plan needs somebody physical).
Yang I think will be kept to acclimatise, I don't think he will get many minutes for the first team but playing age-group football in England for a year will probably still benefit him.
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The main issue next year is potentially not having European football when we are still in a development stage...lack of games, although beneficial for injuries (well, probably:)), doesn't give much game time opportunities to the whole squad. You could argue it might benefit our league position but could be detrimental to overall progress.
 
Still a bit unconvinced by most of the potential replacements being talked about. Not saying they're not good or wouldn't be good for us. Just no "yep, that's the man" for me

Iraola seems to be most people's favourite target. Seems to be a really talented manager to me, really impressive what he's done so far.

With Bournemouth he's done this with a fairly low possession, high energy style. How does his game plan work for a team that will often end up facing low to mid blocks for significant portions of games?

If he was to come in soon (as some want) how would that work with our injury ravaged and fatigued squad. Would he just be another manager like Ange that can't properly play his preferred style because of who's available.

Like Ange he plays a very high intensity game. How will he be able to deal with two games a week for most of the season? Don't think he's had to deal with that much so far.
 
What's the difference between Iraola's tactical system and Ange's though? I'd be interested to know that.
 
braineclipse said:
Still a bit unconvinced by most of the potential replacements being talked about. Not saying they're not good or wouldn't be good for us. Just no "yep, that's the man" for me

Iraola seems to be most people's favourite target. Seems to be a really talented manager to me, really impressive what he's done so far.

With Bournemouth he's done this with a fairly low possession, high energy style. How does his game plan work for a team that will often end up facing low to mid blocks for significant portions of games?

If he was to come in soon (as some want) how would that work with our injury ravaged and fatigued squad. Would he just be another manager like Ange that can't properly play his preferred style because of who's available.

Like Ange he plays a very high intensity game. How will he be able to deal with two games a week for most of the season? Don't think he's had to deal with that much so far.
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So Poch played a very high energy style. I remember Dani Osvaldo who was with him at Soton once saying “you need two hearts to play for him.” He also had to deal with a lot of injuries to key players at Spurs including that last full season. But he still had us being competitive. I see a lot of similarities to his and Iraola’s style. Both were students of Bielsa.
 
lurker of old said:
But genuinely why would he come?

Because the players are pretty much switched on to his style already? And because we'd pay him a lot more money...
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Very few people have the luxury to completely ignore the money factor. Unfortunately, it's a question that is rarely asked but I guess all managers do know they have a relatively short life expectancy so it's all about jumping ship at the right time.

Given that we reached a Champions League final not too long ago, it's fair to expect - at least from an outsider's point of view - that we have a higher ceiling than Bournemouth. On the flip side, we probably have/had a reputation for firing managers at the first sign of weakness. My guess is that we're trying to correct that and that's the reason why Postecoglou still has a job.

In any case, he knows he won't be at Bournemouth in three years so the question he has to ask himself is whether staying there will make him a credible option for bigger clubs or if he needs to move on to put himself in the shop window.
 
Gutter Boy said:
Control and purpose
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Doesn't Ange's tactical system not have that though? There's almost too much purpose especially when we're 2-0 up and still going for it.

What's interesting is that both managers walked into their respective clubs at the same time.

I get the feeling that Ange's tactical system is more complex, but has a high ceiling of disruption when it does works. Is it fair to say Iraola's system finds that control because the players find it easier to use, or is it that Iraola and his coaches are more successful at the implementation of it? I guess there is a load of grey space there.
 
lurker of old said:
But genuinely why would he come?

Because the players are pretty much switched on to his style already? And because we'd pay him a lot more money...
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6X the salary
Bigger club
Better players (when fit)
Higher ceiling
Higher budget
Far more regular European football
Taking advantage of the moment your stock is high

Honestly the question is why would he stay?
 
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