• Dear Guest, Please note that adult content is not permitted on this forum. We have had our Google ads disabled at times due to some posts that were found from some time ago. Please do not post adult content and if you see any already on the forum, please report the post so that we can deal with it. Adult content is allowed in the glory hole - you will have to request permission to access it. Thanks, scara

Contingency planning : When Ange is sacked, who should replace him?

Who do you want as the next Tottenham Hotspur manager?

  • Andoni Iraola

    Votes: 14 12.8%

  • Marco Silva

    Votes: 10 9.2%

  • Thomas Frank

    Votes: 5 4.6%

  • Kieran McKenna

    Votes: 1 0.9%

  • Mauricio Pochettino

    Votes: 49 45.0%

  • Edin Tersic

    Votes: 1 0.9%

  • A.N. Other

    Votes: 29 26.6%
  • Total voters
    109
harr1984 said:
Just can't agree Mikey, if a load of the players on the pitch were underperforming because the players weren't bothered or didn't like the manager/buy in to his methods or whatever, Levy would very quickly catch wind of this. Especially with our league form there is no chance Ange would have survived if that was the case.....
Click to expand...

So what’s your alternative explanation for 12 months of declining performances and results?
 
harr1984 said:
Which of our players have wanted to have a say in the management of the team? A lot of them have made it clear they love playing for Ange which is not the same thing, and like it or not and right or wrong player buy in to the manager is massive. That of course does not mean a manager should stay regardless as there are other considerations, but if you don't have the buy in of the players you are screwed and it is certainly something to consider....
Click to expand...
Don't forget the players who said they signed because Ange sold it to them.
 
billyiddo said:
If the players are bought in to Ange which imv i think it's safe to say they are (he's the type of motivator that would have his players onside till the bitter end) then it just raises more questions regarding the situation.
Click to expand...
You've got to the point where you're just trying to spin any positive as a negative.
 
Last edited:
Lemonade Money said:
Don't forget the players who said they signed because Ange sold it to them.
Click to expand...

tottenham-hotspur-boss-christian-gross-with-jurgen-klinsmann-during-a-news-conference-today.jpg
 
kb 1984 said:
Agreed but if we are going to get players to drag us up they might want some input. We might not like it but players do have say. Certain players had Pochettino ear others didn't same as dl listened to certain players. If you don't believe that no problem
Click to expand...
I read my post again and it sounded more aggressive than it was meant to be. Sorry about that. It's just that 'player power' is a pet hate of mine but I didn't mean to sound hostile.
 
harr1984 said:
Which of our players have wanted to have a say in the management of the team? A lot of them have made it clear they love playing for Ange which is not the same thing, and like it or not and right or wrong player buy in to the manager is massive. That of course does not mean a manager should stay regardless as there are other considerations, but if you don't have the buy in of the players you are screwed and it is certainly something to consider....
Click to expand...
Totally agree with you on the buy-in aspect and I also agree that many of our players have expressed their respect for Postecoglou - no question there. However, I believe - and it's just my opinion - there's a massive difference between taking note of their attitude and reading the room and actually asking them what they want to do.

To use an analogy, you may notice that your kid enjoy going to the restaurant. However, there's a difference between telling them 'I'll take you to the restaurant, tonight' (ie I call the shots) and 'hey, what do you want to do tonight?' (ie I know you're going to choose the restaurant but you make the decision).
 
billyiddo said:
If the players are bought in to Ange which imv i think it's safe to say they are (he's the type of motivator that would have his players onside till the bitter end) then it just raises more questions regarding the situation.
Click to expand...

I think one his major plus points is he has the dressing room. However I don't think that helped us in league last season at all so why it would next season without any major changes is the question
 
thfcsteff said:
Oh dear.
Just in case anyone is going to fall for this conflated rubbish, Klinsmann returned to save us from relegation partially because he wanted more regular game time, partially because it was us and partially because of how he left.
It had nothing to do with Christian Gross.
Click to expand...

My point was more that everyone says the same platitude gonads. 'The manager convinced me to sign' is the same as the old 'I've dreamed of playing for (where is it again) Port Vale (is that by the sea then?) since I was a kid'.
 
thfcsteff said:
Mate,
Maybe having most of the dressing room available to play for most of the season will make a huge difference (along with lessons learnt)?!!
Click to expand...

This is an important factor but the maybe isn't enough for the club to ignore the league form. With those injuries we should not have been so awful in the league.

I think his ability to motivate is great if it impacts the play as well as loyalty to him.

Personally if he stays I'm behind him with nerves. If he moves on and someone like Frank or Silva arrives I'll be the same for that coach.

But at the end of it I'm not sure Ange is right to be leading us in to next season even with the trophy.
 
Lemonade Money said:
You're got to the point where you're just trying to spin any positive as a negative.
Click to expand...

Or I'm having a discussion and calling things as I see them. Nice of you to chime in though.


I have my opinion others have theirs - for me one of the reasons you come to a message board is to have your opinions tested - maybe I might read something that makes me change my position or thinking on a subject, isn't that the point of debate?
 
Last edited:
billyiddo said:
Or I'm having a discussion and calling things as I see them. Nice of you to chime in though.


I have my opinion others have theirs - for me one of the reasons you come to a message board is to have your opinions tested - maybe I might read something that makes me change my position or thinking on a subject, isn't that the point of debate?
Click to expand...
Totally. But you've got to the point where you are trying to spin something that is positive.
 
billyiddo said:
Or I'm having a discussion and calling things as I see them. Nice of you to chime in though.


I have my opinion others have theirs - for me one of the reasons you come to a message board is to have your opinions tested - maybe I might read something that makes me change my position or thinking on a subject, isn't that the point of debate?
Click to expand...

I agree with your definition re: the point of debate.
Honestly?
I don't feel there is much debating in that sense happening with regards to Ange anymore.
IMO the discussion has gone way beyond being anything dialectical.
 
Bullet said:
The more important thing is that we buy the right players.
The manager for this season will do his best, he will gets lots right and wrong and we will finish *somewhere" and then he will either get another chance or we will try someone else, then someone else.

It is the players that will truly drag us up. Recruitment is the key, as long as the manager is competent.
Click to expand...
I agree to a point: (and your point is reinforced by the upgraded profiling we have done on player signings especially around mentality imo) BUT I think you are underselling the role of the manager. If you think of the really successful teams, the managers finger prints are all over them.
 
Last edited:
ricky2tricky4city said:
I agree to a point: (and your point is reinforced by the upgraded profiling we have done on player signings especially around mentality imo) BUT I think you are underselling the role of the manager. If you think of the really successful teams, the managers finger prints are all over them.
Click to expand...
Also, a good manager can elevate players' performances, and a crap one can make good players look bad.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back