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Contingency planning : If Ange is sacked, who should replace him?

The hot flavour, etc, etc...yup, he might just be cheap enough now to swoggle if that's our intention, but truthfully, it would be a terrible move for him because we'd chew him up and spit him out!

He's actually had a good run for a few years now

Uses wingers, can play 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1, got the best out of Solvable

Hard to see a more obvious option

He will get well paid for the opp, and as Nuno has shown, you can continue after
 
The hot flavour, etc, etc...yup, he might just be cheap enough now to swoggle if that's our intention, but truthfully, it would be a terrible move for him because we'd chew him up and spit him out!

I also think good coaches time their moves more deliberately these days.

If you're Iraola, why would you move to Spurs when the outcome is almost certain? You manage against the odds for 1-1.5 years, are rarely backed, and crucified when you hit a bad spell - tossed for the next bloke, because the chairman needs human shields to prevent fan unrest finally turning against him and his boss.

If you want as smooth a ride to the top, you swerve Spurs and find a club that affords you money, patience and time.

Remember, Nagelsmann turned us down. Twice, I think. Even Graham Potter turned us down (allegedly). We're not as hot a destination as people seem to imagine.
 
I also think good coaches time their moves more deliberately these days.

If you're Iraola, why would you move to Spurs when the outcome is almost certain? You manage against the odds for 1-1.5 years, are rarely backed, and crucified when you hit a bad spell - tossed for the next bloke, because the chairman needs human shields to prevent fan unrest finally turning against him and his boss.

If you want as smooth a ride to the top, you swerve Spurs and find a club that affords you money, patience and time.

Remember, Nagelsmann turned us down. Twice, I think. Even Graham Potter turned us down (allegedly). We're not as hot a destination as people seem to imagine.

Come on mate, Amorim is going to crash and burn at United, Poch fudged himself so hard at Chelsea he's managing USA now. Potter turned us down for an even more guaranteed fail. Money talks, always has, always will, Spurs pays managers very well and you get paid if you win/lose

I actually think this job is in the best place it's been in 5 or 6 years, makings of a decent squad (Certainly one that can finish 5th/6th, which would be seen as a success in first year), and you will probably get another 100M or so in summer to add/build
 
Come on mate, Amorim is going to crash and burn at United, Poch fudged himself so hard at Chelsea he's managing USA now. Potter turned us down for an even more guaranteed fail. Money talks, always has, always will, Spurs pays managers very well and you get paid if you win/lose

I actually think this job is in the best place it's been in 5 or 6 years, makings of a decent squad (Certainly one that can finish 5th/6th, which would be seen as a success in first year), and you will probably get another 100M or so in summer to add/build

Disagree. It's why we ended up with Postecouglou in the first place: the really top coaches or those up-and-coming with ambition know that the veneer of us being a club that is really ambitious on the football side has fully slipped (see last summer's transfer business - please don't tell me that was the operations of a club that wanted to back its manager to push on from last season).

You are right in that we'll end up with someone, but not anyone with the required skill to drag us up beyond 5th/6th
 
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Come on mate, Amorim is going to crash and burn at United, Poch fudged himself so hard at Chelsea he's managing USA now. Potter turned us down for an even more guaranteed fail. Money talks, always has, always will, Spurs pays managers very well and you get paid if you win/lose

I actually think this job is in the best place it's been in 5 or 6 years, makings of a decent squad (Certainly one that can finish 5th/6th, which would be seen as a success in first year), and you will probably get another 100M or so in summer to add/build
Hmmm but if you're a hyped up and coming manager, picking the Spurs job might not be for the best. We've seen that Slot and Naglsemann have both turned us down in recent years. Conte did initially as well. I think there's a level of coach who if they watch might see some fairly easy adjustments to make to fix the current form but going forward from that as a club we have no pedigree of actually backing the managers with the players they need and want.

I to would be wary of taking the Spurs job if I were a Slot, Amorin or Naglsemann. I think it's the rung below that we might appeal to and even then more likely the tier below that where you find an Ange. Someone with massive potential but who has worked outside of the typical recruiting locations.
 
I also think good coaches time their moves more deliberately these days.

If you're Iraola, why would you move to Spurs when the outcome is almost certain? You manage against the odds for 1-1.5 years, are rarely backed, and crucified when you hit a bad spell - tossed for the next bloke, because the chairman needs human shields to prevent fan unrest finally turning against him and his boss.

If you want as smooth a ride to the top, you swerve Spurs and find a club that affords you money, patience and time.

Remember, Nagelsmann turned us down. Twice, I think. Even Graham Potter turned us down (allegedly). We're not as hot a destination as people seem to imagine.

That's what I was saying?
 
Come on mate, Amorim is going to crash and burn at United, Poch fudged himself so hard at Chelsea he's managing USA now. Potter turned us down for an even more guaranteed fail. Money talks, always has, always will, Spurs pays managers very well and you get paid if you win/lose

I actually think this job is in the best place it's been in 5 or 6 years, makings of a decent squad (Certainly one that can finish 5th/6th, which would be seen as a success in first year), and you will probably get another 100M or so in summer to add/build

Not true!
Unless you meant he wouldn't play power games and give over control to the weirdos running that ship!!!
He absolutely got that club in plade to do what they're doing now.
 
Not true!
Unless you meant he wouldn't play power games and give over control to the weirdos running that ship!!!
He absolutely got that club in plade to do what they're doing now.

Come on mate, I said it at the time, the Chelsea job when he took it, was a ride to nowhere, you wanted the job after him (go look at my previous comments), for that exact point, someone had to sort the stupid squad. But he's gone from Chelsea to managing USA, do you want to take a look at what their opponents look like? not even you can tell me that's an upgrade
 
Come on mate, I said it at the time, the Chelsea job when he took it, was a ride to nowhere, you wanted the job after him (go look at my previous comments), for that exact point, someone had to sort the stupid squad. But he's gone from Chelsea to managing USA, do you want to take a look at what their opponents look like? not even you can tell me that's an upgrade

Your post seemed to suggest he failed at Chelsea. I was merely pointing out he didn't, that it was clash of attitudes, but that he actually got them in a good place.
I don't think anyone here thought the Chelsea job was one he should've taken. I also don't think anyone has suggested managing the US is an upgrade; not even I would try to.
 
Sure mate - I was more reacting to the 'he might be cheap enough for us to swoggle' bit.

He might, but that doesn't mean he would want to come here, is all. You're right that it would be a terrible move for him, and I think most coaches worth their salt see that now.

Personally, I don't think Levy would go for any manager who costs anything much (incl their staff). So in that sense, Iraola might be just within what he'd consider. But yes, my comment was absolutely suggesting that any manager in his position will simply look at our history and think 'probably not thanks'...
 
Come on mate, Amorim is going to crash and burn at United, Poch fudged himself so hard at Chelsea he's managing USA now. Potter turned us down for an even more guaranteed fail. Money talks, always has, always will, Spurs pays managers very well and you get paid if you win/lose

I actually think this job is in the best place it's been in 5 or 6 years, makings of a decent squad (Certainly one that can finish 5th/6th, which would be seen as a success in first year), and you will probably get another 100M or so in summer to add/build

On Poch, I think he did as good a job as he could have done with blue scum - they were roaring at the end of his tenure. He left for reasons other than their performances, which have continued into this season.

As for Potter, the circumstances are different at blue scum and Spurs - yes he was hung out to dry there, but they pumped a billion dollars into that squad. You can't say he didn't get the tools to do a good job, he just didn't get the time or the backing.

We aren't going to show the ambition blue scum did. Not now, not ever. But we are as trigger-happy as they are, with a fraction of the financial firepower. This is not good, in terms of being an appealing managerial post.

On the squad, you're a little more optimistic than me. Some parts are good - we have an abundance of good/promising attacking midfielders (Maddison, Kulu, Bergvall), and some good pieces elsewhere. But also some yawning gaps (defensive midfield, right wing, etc.), that will take a long time to rectify.
 
Your post seemed to suggest he failed at Chelsea. I was merely pointing out he didn't, that it was clash of attitudes, but that he actually got them in a good place.
I don't think anyone here thought the Chelsea job was one he should've taken. I also don't think anyone has suggested managing the US is an upgrade; not even I would try to.

He got fired, most people would agree it was a train to nowhere, but lets be clear, it's hurt his career.

Sure mate - I was more reacting to the 'he might be cheap enough for us to swoggle' bit.

He might, but that doesn't mean he would want to come here, is all. You're right that it would be a terrible move for him, and I think most coaches worth their salt see that now.

Such a idealist, offer Conte's salary and a lot of fudging coaches will take and not give a brick about long term impact. You may never get the chance again is reality

Personally, I don't think Levy would go for any manager who costs anything much (incl their staff). So in that sense, Iraola might be just within what he'd consider. But yes, my comment was absolutely suggesting that any manager in his position will simply look at our history and think 'probably not thanks'...

Have you gone off the deep end mate? do you want to look at what Poch, Jose, Conte were earning with us? what their payoffs were? the one place Levy has never not payed top dollar is managers
 
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On Poch, I think he did as good a job as he could have done with blue scum - they were roaring at the end of his tenure. He left for reasons other than their performances, which have continued into this season.

As for Potter, the circumstances are different at blue scum and Spurs - yes he was hung out to dry there, but they pumped a billion dollars into that squad. You can't say he didn't get the tools to do a good job, he just didn't get the time or the backing.

We aren't going to show the ambition blue scum did. Not now, not ever. But we are as trigger-happy as they are, with a fraction of the financial firepower. This is not good, in terms of being an appealing managerial post.

On the squad, you're a little more optimistic than me. Some parts are good - we have an abundance of good/promising attacking midfielders (Maddison, Kulu, Bergvall), and some good pieces elsewhere. But also some yawning gaps (defensive midfield, right wing, etc.), that will take a long time to rectify.

Come on, I challenge you and @thfcsteff

How about we give this squad to your boy Poch (not saying he will come or we will go for him), setup as 4-2-3-1

---- Vic ---------

Spence/Porro - Romero/Dragusin - VDV/Davies - Udogie

Bentancur/Biss - Sarr

Deki/Johnson - Maddison/Bergvall - Son/Wilson

Solanke/Richi

Sell Richi & Biss, release Werner, take that money + typical 100M we spend each window now, buy a DM, LB, backup GK, 2nd Striker, play a possession based game with slightly less suicidal tendencies. fudge sell Maddison and Romero if you think you can get better.

You tell me that team doesn't get 5th? this squad is a lot better than Ange is getting out of it, not saying it's a top 3 side but it will be in the mix for 4th-6th
 
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