Cheatski are still scum

[Dicko]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1690439079534493697

So a day or so after Poch said Kepa was their no.1 they are loaning him out...

He was supposed to be discussing a move to Bayern before Real Madrid came in due to Courtois' injury. Chelsea are a weird club aren't they. Bought two 'next big thing' keepers in Kepa and Mendy, decided they weren't good enough and bought Sanchez who's no where near a top keeper. They'll probably just go buy another 100m keeper in January!

 

[Lilbaz]

How can they buy another £111m player

Because selling and buying are treated differently in ffp. You sell a player on your accounts that is a lump sum. You buy someone, it is amortised over the length of their contract.

So selling mount (who was home grown) is worth £60m.
Buying an £80m player in on 8 year contract costs you £10m. Each year for 8 years.

So you are £50m up. For that year.

 

[Kandi1977]

Because selling and buying are treated differently in ffp. You sell a player on your accounts that is a lump sum. You buy someone, it is amortised over the length of their contract.

So selling mount (who was home grown) is worth £60m.
Buying an £80m player in on 8 year contract costs you £10m. Each year for 8 years.

So you are £50m up. For that year.

Amortisation is maximum 5 years now.

 

[Lilbaz]

Amortisation is maximum 5 years now.

Not when they bought them. Retrospective rules will get destroyed in court.

Also has this been made official? I know they've proposed it.

Edit - i see they brought that in 28th june. So yes players since then are subject to it. Think chelsea are still fine though.

 

[superspurs]

So after Caciedo and Lavia they're gonna be +121m on the window, what happened to them having to make a large profit this window in order to be safe from FFP?

Inc last season it will be over 660m in the red for transfers across 3 windows under Bohley...

It's all total fudging gonads.

 

[Lilbaz]

So after Caciedo and Lavia they're gonna be +121m on the window, what happened to them having to make a large profit this window in order to be safe from FFP?

Inc last season it will be over 660m in the red for transfers across 3 windows under Bohley...

It's all total fudging gonad*s.

Are you trying to understand why or do you just want to complain? If you want to understand then read the posts previous to yours. If it's just a rant that is fair enough aswell. I think it's ridiculous aswell.

Chelsea still haven't even got a shirt sponsor. It shows how that club is run at the moment.

 

[Grays_1890]

So after Caciedo and Lavia they're gonna be +121m on the window, what happened to them having to make a large profit this window in order to be safe from FFP?

Inc last season it will be over 660m in the red for transfers across 3 windows under Bohley...

It's all total fudging gonad*s.

Lavia was going to Liverpool earlier.....WTF is happening here? Olise next apparently?

 

[superspurs]

Are you trying to understand why or do you just want to complain? If you want to understand then read the posts previous to yours. If it's just a rant that is fair enough aswell. I think it's ridiculous aswell.

Chelsea still haven't even got a shirt sponsor. It shows how that club is run at the moment.

Bit of both, I just don't see how they can go without any punishment moving forward being nearly £700m in the red, even when exploiting loopholes that existed or continue to exist.

 

[Grays_1890]

Bit of both, I just don't see how they can go without any punishment moving forward being nearly £700m in the red, even when exploiting loopholes that existed or continue to exist.

Whats the end game here though? Taking players that expect to play in those numbers is not hoarding for the future IMO, is it to take them off the market? Disrupt the market? Add value to the club? Honestly its absolutely insane

 

[Lilbaz]

Bit of both, I just don't see how they can go without any punishment moving forward being nearly £700m in the red, even when exploiting loopholes that existed or continue to exist.

It's not football. It's how finance works. If you are swapping cash for an asset you haven't lost anything. The loss occurs with the depreciation of the asset you bought. Which in football is often a player and is called amortisation.

 

[Lilbaz]

Whats the end game here though? Taking players that expect to play in those numbers is not hoarding for the future IMO, is it to take them off the market? Disrupt the market? Add value to the club? Honestly its absolutely insane

Read an article in the ft about clearlake. They like to buy a company, then fatten them up by buying other companies that are similar. Package them off then sell within 5 years for a profit. If that is what they are trying to do with chelsea (in a weird way) i don't see it working.

 

[JerusalemMan]

He was supposed to be discussing a move to Bayern before Real Madrid came in due to Courtois' injury. Chelsea are a weird club aren't they. Bought two 'next big thing' keepers in Kepa and Mendy, decided they weren't good enough and bought Sanchez who's no where near a top keeper. They'll probably just go buy another 100m keeper in January!

They are, of course, now being linked with Diogo Costa.

 

[Lilbaz]

Simon jordans take.

 

[Gutter Boy]

Read an article in the ft about clearlake. They like to buy a company, then fatten them up by buying other companies that are similar. Package them off then sell within 5 years for a profit. If that is what they are trying to do with chelsea (in a weird way) i don't see it working.

So buy Fulham and QPR, merge them, and then sell them to an even dumber American as the 'West London Meghan Markle's Windsor Castle Wizards - 1st, 2nds and Davis Love 3rds'?

 

[Grays_1890]

Simon jordans take.

Yeh saw that, makes sense from that perspective. From a footballing one, never seen anything like it in my life, not even Emirates Marketing Project and Chelsea MK1. Its all abit messy for me, its not like the Liverpools and Cities of the past couple of years where the foundation is there and you go "I need him and him" and TBF to Pep for all his money, a close knit small squad. Just seems like a scatter gun, throwing darts.

I just see no success story (unless I am overlooking it) where I look and say, in footballing terms....that works.

I could be well off the mark, but I don't see Poch lasting there, his main goal will be as much to manage the squad and those expectations as on the pitch and I fail to see anyone being able to manage that

 

[Lilbaz]

So buy Fulham and QPR, merge them, and then sell them to an even dumber American as the 'West London Meghan Markle's Windsor Castle Wizards - 1st, 2nds and Davis Love 3rds'?

Didn't scholar want to merge us with arsenal? To make a super london club.

 

[Lilbaz]

Yeh saw that, makes sense from that perspective. From a footballing one, never seen anything like it in my life, not even Emirates Marketing Project and Chelsea MK1. Its all abit messy for me, its not like the Liverpools and Cities of the past couple of years where the foundation is there and you go "I need him and him" and TBF to Pep for all his money, a close knit small squad. Just seems like a scatter gun, throwing darts.

I just see no success story (unless I am overlooking it) where I look and say, in footballing terms....that works.

I could be well off the mark, but I don't see Poch lasting there, his main goal will be as much to manage the squad and those expectations as on the pitch and I fail to see anyone being able to manage that

The not agreeing a shirt sponsor gets me. That's £40m a year +. The shirts are going to be sold on the 16th without a sponsor on them. It just seems like a total circus over there.

Also i love poch, but when liverpool scored yesterday i was chanting poch out.

 

[Grays_1890]

The not agreeing a shirt sponsor gets me. That's £40m a year +. The shirts are going to be sold on the 16th without a sponsor on them. It just seems like a total circus over there.

Also i love poch, but when liverpool scored yesterday i was chanting poch out.

Hahah I love Poch too, but man did that look weird....he even had the ill fitting black shirt and suit combo..

 

[superspurs]

It's not football. It's how finance works. If you are swapping cash for an asset you haven't lost anything. The loss occurs with the depreciation of the asset you bought. Which in football is often a player and is called amortisation.

I do get it, I just can't believe it's still only potentially a long term issue.

Begs the question why haven't other clubs tried to do it to this extreme also.

 

[Grays_1890]

I do get it, I just can't believe it's still only potentially a long term issue.

Begs the question why haven't other clubs tried to do it to this extreme also.

Yep to my earlier point, its gotta be about the football somewhere along the line too, ignore the financials, why have other clubs not done it? They may as well now shut their academy.....