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Cheatski are still scum

With hazard leaving and the transfer ban I think this year will be a free swing for him. As long as he doesn't fudge up too drastically he won't be fired. And he doesn't have to do it all himself. The draw of Chelsea is wanning but he can still attract some good coaching staff.
Now is the right time for him I think.
 
MKSpur said:
If not Lampard, who else?
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As noted in another thread - Benitez is out of contract in a couple of weeks.

Im not his biggest fan, but he would be a good fit for Chelsea right now. He has shown in the past he knows his way round the PL and CL, can work with high expectation - and at Saudi Sportswashing Machine has shown he can do the job with limited resources.

AND he did a decent job there already on an interim basis a while back.

The more I think of it, the more it makes sense.


As to the job in hand, much depends on the transfer ban being enforced or not, but they have IMO a decent team at best - not a top one. Without Hazard as a difference maker they dont really have goals in that side. They have a serviceable midfield and a meh defence.
 
nayimfromthehalfwayline said:
As noted in another thread - Benitez is out of contract in a couple of weeks.

Im not his biggest fan, but he would be a good fit for Chelsea right now. He has shown in the past he knows his way round the PL and CL, can work with high expectation - and at Saudi Sportswashing Machine has shown he can do the job with limited resources.

AND he did a decent job there already on an interim basis a while back.

The more I think of it, the more it makes sense.


As to the job in hand, much depends on the transfer ban being enforced or not, but they have IMO a decent team at best - not a top one. Without Hazard as a difference maker they dont really have goals in that side. They have a serviceable midfield and a meh defence.
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all logical, but the knuckle draggers would riot, they hounded him out last time despite a pretty impressive record didn't they?
 
Wasn't it the Liverpool connection too and his feud with Jose. Also the flags comment:

http://en.espn.co.uk/golf/sport/story/181209.html

Rafael Benitez says he understands Chelsea fans' anger towards him but feels he does not need to apologise for the 'flags' comment which has caused such consternation, and insists that the only way he can make amends is by simply doing his job well.

When the Spaniard was manager of Liverpool during the two clubs' Champions League bouts in 2007, he infamously said: "We don't need to give away flags for our fans to wave. Our supporters are always there with their hearts, and that is all we need. It's the passion of the fans that helps to win matches - not flags."

It led to a chorus of booing before and throughout the 0-0 draw at Stamford Bridge against Emirates Marketing Project on Sunday, Benitez's first game in charge, with the stadium announcer having to ask fans for calm. Sections of Chelsea fans have requested an apology for the 2007 comments, but Benitez evaded the issue when questioned.

"I know how they feel," Benitez said. "I understand how they feel. It's not a situation we can change in one minute. But working hard, winning games, I can improve it, starting with Fulham.

"The problem is we can analyse what I said and I didn't say. Some things are true, some things are not true. I'll try my best to win their trust. That's it.

"[In 2007] I was praising the fans of my club, my team. But I'm here now, it's my club, and I will do my best for them. That's my explanation, very easy and very simple. I will try to defend my club, and this is now my club."

Benitez said he 'didn't know' when asked whether the fans would be any kinder on Wednesday against Fulham.

He said: "I can say that, since coming here, I've worked really hard, coming in at 8.30am, doing my job, talking to players and staff and trying to be ready for the game. I know how they feel, but the only thing I can do is try and win their trust working hard and doing my best.

"Here we come into a situation where it's a difficult time over the last few games. Hopefully, they will see. I'm a professional. I like to work hard."

When asked how he personally dealt with the booing on Sunday, Benitez said he merely thought of what he would say to a player under such pressure.

"I'd tell him to stay focused and try to do his job, don't be distracted," he said. "Concentrate on your football. I understand the feelings of the fans because of my time at Liverpool, where we had rivalry and it was quite difficult.

"But, at the same time, I will try to prove I'm here for the right reasons. We want to win, and we can do that together. I'll try and improve players and it'll be easier to win games and bring the fans back."

© ESPN Sports Media Ltd.
 
AuroRaman said:
Wasn't it the Liverpool connection too and his feud with Jose. Also the flags comment:

http://en.espn.co.uk/golf/sport/story/181209.html

Rafael Benitez says he understands Chelsea fans' anger towards him but feels he does not need to apologise for the 'flags' comment which has caused such consternation, and insists that the only way he can make amends is by simply doing his job well.

When the Spaniard was manager of Liverpool during the two clubs' Champions League bouts in 2007, he infamously said: "We don't need to give away flags for our fans to wave. Our supporters are always there with their hearts, and that is all we need. It's the passion of the fans that helps to win matches - not flags."

It led to a chorus of booing before and throughout the 0-0 draw at Stamford Bridge against Emirates Marketing Project on Sunday, Benitez's first game in charge, with the stadium announcer having to ask fans for calm. Sections of Chelsea fans have requested an apology for the 2007 comments, but Benitez evaded the issue when questioned.

"I know how they feel," Benitez said. "I understand how they feel. It's not a situation we can change in one minute. But working hard, winning games, I can improve it, starting with Fulham.

"The problem is we can analyse what I said and I didn't say. Some things are true, some things are not true. I'll try my best to win their trust. That's it.

"[In 2007] I was praising the fans of my club, my team. But I'm here now, it's my club, and I will do my best for them. That's my explanation, very easy and very simple. I will try to defend my club, and this is now my club."

Benitez said he 'didn't know' when asked whether the fans would be any kinder on Wednesday against Fulham.

He said: "I can say that, since coming here, I've worked really hard, coming in at 8.30am, doing my job, talking to players and staff and trying to be ready for the game. I know how they feel, but the only thing I can do is try and win their trust working hard and doing my best.

"Here we come into a situation where it's a difficult time over the last few games. Hopefully, they will see. I'm a professional. I like to work hard."

When asked how he personally dealt with the booing on Sunday, Benitez said he merely thought of what he would say to a player under such pressure.

"I'd tell him to stay focused and try to do his job, don't be distracted," he said. "Concentrate on your football. I understand the feelings of the fans because of my time at Liverpool, where we had rivalry and it was quite difficult.

"But, at the same time, I will try to prove I'm here for the right reasons. We want to win, and we can do that together. I'll try and improve players and it'll be easier to win games and bring the fans back."

© ESPN Sports Media Ltd.
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If they're after a manager that doesn't think Chelsea fans are plastic clams then they're in for a long wait.
 
I'm going to applaud Chelsea for this choice. The moneyed clubs rarely give a chance to young English managers (or old ones come to that). If it works out they deserve some credit for the choice, even if their hand was forced. If it doesn't work out, well its easy to be pleased about that.
 
Its really odd. As I said upthread Benitez makes so much sense. Lampard is literally being signed up on sentiment. He has had a single season of management, decent not amazing, and thats it. That really doesnt qualify someone for a top job in the premier league.

He may well do a good job, but its a massive risk.
 
Big mistake by Lampard, we know he loves Chelski and i do think he will become a very good manager, however i really think he should stay where he is for another season.
 
As I said before, in many ways its a no - lose situation for him.

The job at Derby is only getting harder with a shrinking budget and all the talent going back to parent clubs.

Having managed Chelsea, even if it all goes wrong, he'll still end up getting a higher profile/level job than Derby.
 
And he has the transfer ban as an excuse. That, the loss of Hazard and his Chelsea affiliations should leave him safe for a second season. Roman's disengagement also probably helps dampen expectations.
 
nayimfromthehalfwayline said:
As I said before, in many ways its a no - lose situation for him.

The job at Derby is only getting harder with a shrinking budget and all the talent going back to parent clubs.

Having managed Chelsea, even if it all goes wrong, he'll still end up getting a higher profile/level job than Derby.
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I’m not convinced
This could be a Paul Ince type appointment where a player gets the role off the hype of their playing career and never recovers
 
Bedfordspurs said:
I’m not convinced
This could be a Paul Ince type appointment where a player gets the role off the hype of their playing career and never recovers
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Paul Ince who spent the next 6 years working steadily in League 1 and the Championship despite being utterly incompetent off the back of being a Premier League manager with Blackburn?

Garry Monk who got Leeds, Middlesboro and Birmingham jobs off the back of taking on Swansea in the Premier League?

Di Matteo who got got Shalke and Villa jobs after caretaking Chelsea?

Just look at the like of Pardew, Holloway, Bruce, Warnock....

Get a Premier League job and you are set for more Premier League, Championship jobs for the next years easily.

If Lampard manages Chelsea and it all goes wrong I bet he stays in the Prem at a lower team. West Ham will probably be open to it...
 
nayimfromthehalfwayline said:
Paul Ince who spent the next 6 years working steadily in League 1 and the Championship despite being utterly incompetent off the back of being a Premier League manager with Blackburn?

Garry Monk who got Leeds, Middlesboro and Birmingham jobs off the back of taking on Swansea in the Premier League?

Di Matteo who got got Shalke and Villa jobs after caretaking Chelsea?

Just look at the like of Pardew, Holloway, Bruce, Warnock....

Get a Premier League job and you are set for more Premier League, Championship jobs for the next years easily.

If Lampard manages Chelsea and it all goes wrong I bet he stays in the Prem at a lower team. West Ham will probably be open to it...
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Don’t disagree with the overall point but I’m sure given how the fans have always treated him Lampard won’t be going to West Ham even if it was the only job he could get!
 
nayimfromthehalfwayline said:
Paul Ince who spent the next 6 years working steadily in League 1 and the Championship despite being utterly incompetent off the back of being a Premier League manager with Blackburn?

Garry Monk who got Leeds, Middlesboro and Birmingham jobs off the back of taking on Swansea in the Premier League?

Di Matteo who got got Shalke and Villa jobs after caretaking Chelsea?

Just look at the like of Pardew, Holloway, Bruce, Warnock....

Get a Premier League job and you are set for more Premier League, Championship jobs for the next years easily.

If Lampard manages Chelsea and it all goes wrong I bet he stays in the Prem at a lower team. West Ham will probably be open to it...
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Once you get on the merry-go-round you're made for life. Unless you are David O'Leary.
 
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MKSpur said:
Don’t disagree with the overall point but I’m sure given how the fans have always treated him Lampard won’t be going to West Ham even if it was the only job he could get!
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He's a Chelsea man, but Ive seen him speak well of West Ham.

Possible he is just trying to be gracious, knowing he never has to have anything to do with them - possibly he has genuine affinity. Who knows?

That said, he is generally credited with a decent head on his shoulders so I suppose that itself would discount going to West Ham!

Given that he is quite articulate and presents himself well Im surprised he went into management at all instead of getting on the Sky Pundit gray train, easy money...
 
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