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Cardiff striker's plane goes missing

Craig_J said:
Is this something that's been said or something that you are theorising did not happen?
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Cardiff have clearly stated that the arrangements were both not in their control and unknown to them. So the pressure couldn't have come from them
 
scaramanga said:
Cardiff have clearly stated that the arrangements were both not in their control and unknown to them. So the pressure couldn't have come from them
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you are making the assumption that there was pressure, unless I missed something, even with the texts he could be keen/desperate to get to the club as soon as he could.
 
r-u-s-x said:
you are making the assumption that there was pressure, unless I missed something, even with the texts he could be keen/desperate to get to the club as soon as he could.
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I'm not sure why else a pilot who doesn't need the hrs (he was 59, so had no time to be working towards a CPL) would be flying into a known icing situation, over water, when he had neither the skills nor the license to fly above it.

Even a very inexperienced pilot would have known that is not a situation one flies into and the weather forecast didn't change from flight plan to flight. The only logical explanation is financial incentive, in which case we look towards who was paying for the flight. McKay insists that was Henderson, I can't think for the life of me why Henderson would be paying another pilot to make a flight and paying enough of a premium to make him take those risks.

Look at the messages from Sala in the hours and days leading up to the flight - those are not the words of someone in control of the situation.
 
scaramanga said:
I'm not sure why else a pilot who doesn't need the hrs (he was 59, so had no time to be working towards a CPL) would be flying into a known icing situation, over water, when he had neither the skills nor the license to fly above it.

Even a very inexperienced pilot would have known that is not a situation one flies into and the weather forecast didn't change from flight plan to flight. The only logical explanation is financial incentive,
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That's a big leap, other logical explanations - false bravado - wanted to get home in time for tea- didn't want to spend the night - not enough experience to realize how dangerous it was.
 
r-u-s-x said:
That's a big leap, other logical explanations - false bravado - wanted to get home in time for tea- didn't want to spend the night - not enough experience to realize how dangerous it was.
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He had plenty enough experience to know the danger. The pilot had a lot of hours, just not nearly enough for a commercial license.
 
scaramanga said:
I'm not sure why else a pilot who doesn't need the hrs (he was 59, so had no time to be working towards a CPL) would be flying into a known icing situation, over water, when he had neither the skills nor the license to fly above it.

Even a very inexperienced pilot would have known that is not a situation one flies into and the weather forecast didn't change from flight plan to flight. The only logical explanation is financial incentive, in which case we look towards who was paying for the flight. McKay insists that was Henderson, I can't think for the life of me why Henderson would be paying another pilot to make a flight and paying enough of a premium to make him take those risks.

Look at the messages from Sala in the hours and days leading up to the flight - those are not the words of someone in control of the situation.
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All of this.
There is much to come out. Whether it will or not we shall find out of course.


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r-u-s-x said:
That's a big leap, other logical explanations - false bravado - wanted to get home in time for tea- didn't want to spend the night - not enough experience to realize how dangerous it was.
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Mate. Not experienced enough to realize how dangerous it was? Come on. He simply should not have been close to a roosterpit in that case. Something does not add up.

Personally, I think the inexperience angle is a starting point for investigation. And I have to believe that if Sala had heard from an experienced person (or even a relatively sane adult!) that the flight was being postponed until the next day due to weather, he’d have said not one word.

I appreciate that conjecture can be a dangerous and foolish thing in such a situation, but something is off IMO.


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scaramanga said:
He had plenty enough experience to know the danger. The pilot had a lot of hours, just not nearly enough for a commercial license.
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That is central to everything. How much experience did he have? Why would he continue with the flight if he had enough experience given the conditions? Why was he flying the plane given the details offered? It could simply be the “it won’t happen to us” percentage gamble? Who knows? We might never sadly...


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thfcsteff said:
Mate. Not experienced enough to realize how dangerous it was? Come on. He simply should not have been close to a roosterpit in that case. Something does not add up.

Personally, I think the inexperience angle is a starting point for investigation. And I have to believe that if Sala had heard from an experienced person (or even a relatively sane adult!) that the flight was being postponed until the next day due to weather, he’d have said not one word.

I appreciate that conjecture can be a dangerous and foolish thing in such a situation, but something is off IMO.


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My only point was there is no evidence to suggest he was pressured to take the flight, people do stupid stuff daily without any pressure.
 
r-u-s-x said:
My only point was there is no evidence to suggest he was pressured to take the flight, people do stupid stuff daily without any pressure.
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Rarely pilots though. In my experience they're ultra-boring, cautious, sticklers for bureaucracy and regulation to a man.
 
If true, that is a proper dingdong move from Cardiff.
The sensible outcome would have been an agreement for Cardiff and Nantes to take part of the fee each out of respect (£5m Nantes and £10m Cardiff or something. And keep it behind closed doors.)
 
monkeybarry said:
If true, that is a proper dingdong move from Cardiff.
The sensible outcome would have been an agreement for Cardiff and Nantes to take part of the fee each out of respect (£5m Nantes and £10m Cardiff or something. And keep it behind closed doors.)
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Nantes owe 7.5M to Bordeaux on the deal and he was sold to Cardiff, think you are letting Cardiff off with passing the issue back, its a terrible thing to happen but they had sold him to Cardiff.

Can't see this avenue going anywhere as I am sure Leicster tried to say Silva wasn't their player because they couldn't register him

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/...s/adrien-silva-sporting-lisbon-release-444934
 
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