Stiff_Swede
Anthony Gardner
Best suit ever!
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AtlantaSpurs
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Loved that. Can he not turn off the pout when he should know he'll be in extreme close-up?
http://twitter.com/SoccerByIves/status/288364997388673024/photo/1
Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
So all 11 players from La Liga. Are people still not convinced that it's the best league in the world?
THFC6061
Paul Robinson
No doubt that the very best players are in Spain, but overall the Premier League has a much higher standard.
Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
The only one I don't agree with there is Pique. I know he had a good Euros, but he was poor for Barca.
Klopp should be a lot higher in the managers list too.
Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
Can't agree with that. I think the PL has been in decline since Ronaldo left, just look at our teams performances in Europe. Spain have so much talent it's ridiculous! I bet most people in England hadn't heard of Santi Cazorla until this season, they have so many players that are largely unknown over here.
Plus none of the top 4 teams in Europe are English IMO.
The problem with Spanish League is after #4, the rest for the most part would struggle in the Championship ...
Seeing sides being beaten 6-0 and 8-0 every week isn't very entertaining to be honest.
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indianspur
Guest
no need to exaggerate
there are some very good teams in La Liga besides the current top 4 and could more than handle themselves in the Premier League
6 nill and 8 nill every week??? results this season prove you are well wide off the mark.....in fact, if you want high scoring results of that nature, they are more likely in the Premier League
disgusting to have alves, marcelo and pique anywhere near a toty.
Alves especially has been much worse than he was a couple of years ago, pretty sure he lost his first time place to the left-sided Adriano at one point too...
colin fishwick
Reto Ziegler
You have to do a bit more than a 5 yard square pass. Has never been on the list and that is probably right. Fabregas , Hazard. miles ahead of Scholes. both not on the list
Lily White
Clive Wilson
Sorry to disagree but you either have style or you don't and money won't buy it, a case in point is Gold and Sullivan (the porno twins). They have loads of cash but they have absolutely no style, they are just so bling and crass but perhaps that is just a question of taste.
As for Messi, he has bagfuls of footballing style but sorry the suit doesn't cut it for me, maybe thats just my aversion to spotty suits. Don't think its classy and if he is going for the eccentric look then i don't think he quite pulls that off either. But if he doesn't give a brick then good on him.
Lily White
Clive Wilson
I look at the lists for team of the year and manager of the year and it just seems lazy. Its just a list of players and managers who are best known and no thought has gone into it. As great a manager as he is, why is Fergie on there? What did he achieve last year?
Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
I honestly think teams like Valencia, Levante and Sevilla are much better sides than the teams that occupy say 6th to 14th in the PL i.e. Stoke, West Brom and Swansea to name a few.
And didn't Aston Villa get beat 8-0 recently and concede 15 goals over the Christmas period?
Spursalot
Jimmy McCormick
Which is why they are likely to occupy one of the relegation spots, or there abouts.
Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
Very true, all I meant was it's not just teams in Spain that get gubbed by scores of 8-0 or 6-0. Barca would destroy teams in our league too. Arsenal put 7 past Reading, who knows how many Messi would score past that defence!
SPURSphenomenon
Kevin Scott
Who from the Premier League would get into that World XI?
Falcao Messi and Cristiano are the best three forwards.
Xavi, Xabi Alonso, Iniesta all performed better than any midfielder in the prem last year
Marcelo - the only debate, couldve been Cole IMO, some of his performances in the CL were pretty phenomenal (c**t), Pique, Ramos, Dani Alves - Alves seems like he shouldnt be in there, but again, which PL RB can say they were better?
Casillas - The best.
Overall, no stand out PL performers above the XI picked IMO.
Falcao Messi and Cristiano are the best three forwards.
Xavi, Xabi Alonso, Iniesta all performed better than any midfielder in the prem last year
Marcelo - the only debate, couldve been Cole IMO, some of his performances in the CL were pretty phenomenal (c**t), Pique, Ramos, Dani Alves - Alves seems like he shouldnt be in there, but again, which PL RB can say they were better?
Casillas - The best.
Overall, no stand out PL performers above the XI picked IMO.
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
Just to add some numbers to the debate...
Last season Real scored 121, Barca scored 114. By comparison City scored 93 and United 89.
Two seasons before that:
Barca: 95, Real: 102. United: 78, Chelsea: 69
Barca: 98, Real: 102. Chelsea: 103, United: 86
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Across the 3 previous seasons total goals scored by the top two teams in Spain: 632
Across the 3 previous seasons total goals scored by the top two teams in England: 518
So the top two teams in England have scored approximately 82% as many goals as the top two teams in Spain.
I would say that Barca and Real have been considerably better than the top teams in England during that time. Of course it's impossible to estimate by how much or how much of a difference that would make. If the lower ranked Spanish teams are worse defensively than the lower ranked English teams I would say it's probably not by much. Leading me to the conclusion that it's probably not by enough to compensate for the two top teams being clearly better than the top English sides. To me this would indicate that the Spanish league is stronger overall. That's not the same as being "the best" or "the most entertaining" of course.