Kandi1977
Vivian Woodward
Never seen Rodri do stuff like this.
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Ballon d'Or
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SteveAWOL
Gary Stevens
It's almost been a requirement to play for either Real or Barca. I can see why they were shocked it went to someone in the PL.
Dicko
John Lacy
Still going for club and country at 40 is insane!
That is a generational player.
In 20 years his name will be up there in coversations with cruyff etc...
johnola
Vedran Corluka
No chance Cruyff scored a crazy amount of goals.
The game isn't just about goals.
Baleforce
Mark Falco
Way better imo. He's Zidane level conversation.
Cruyff won ballon d'or 3 times.
Baleforce
Mark Falco
In the old days, when football brick.
Don’t get me wrong, he was fudging brilliant, but levels behind Zidane and Modric, who are probably both in footballs all time best 11.
Google it. Most sites has cruyff above them. He is one of the greatest players of all time. Nearly all have him top 10 if not top 5.
Baleforce
Mark Falco
everyone is welcome to their opinion
I think football evolves, the level only goes one way, athleticism and fitness is a huge part of it too
You can only judge someone for their time period. The competition they had.
They are great players. True legends. That should be enough.
johnola
Vedran Corluka
Apologies. It’s about xG.
Defoe scored almost twice as many goals as cantona in his career. Would you say that made him a better player?
Lost Mango
Steed Malbranque
And Cruyff would have been fitter and more athletic, his skills would have transferred magnificently into the modern game.
Would Modric have shone on crappy surfaces with less/zero protection from 'proper' tackling?
The game does evolve, players are as you say, more athletic and fitter, but they aren't more skillful. Just the playing surfaces and technology improvements alone (balls and boots alone come to mind), let alone the levels of professionalism and training knowledge, mean you can do more.
You realise modric started in the bosnian league then croatian? He shone enough to get a big money (at the time) move to us.
Lost Mango
Steed Malbranque
Totally but even there the standard of reffing and protection is miles ahead of what happened globally in the 60s and 70s.
I'm not downgrading Modric, absolutely a world class player, but think there are those who dismiss the 'legends' because the game has moved on and 'improved' without attributing a significant proportion of that improvement to the external factors rather than just pure ability.
This idea that fotball was brick pre-1992 is BS. It was different but there was massive amounts of skill and the game had much more about it than many of today's artistic or 'tactical' borefests.