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Another shooting in Murica

When I first saw the quote I assumed it came from Trump.

They are both as bad as each other if this is the language one can expect from the democrats. Speechless!

 
And it won’t be Biden who will be there long( should the democrats win) seeing as the guy doesn’t appear to be in charge of his facilities.

i would say he is a puppet and will step down half way through his term to be replaced possibly by Harris.

 
spitshine said:
And it won’t be Biden who will be there long( should the democrats win) seeing as the guy doesn’t appear to be in charge of his facilities.

i would say he is a puppet and will step down half way through his term to be replaced possibly by Harris.

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Then well qualified to jump into Don’s shoes I would say!
 
scaramanga said:
If anyone in a protest is rioting/looting then they are all to blame.

They're the ones making it possible, the ones creating the environment where looting and rioting can occur.

The kid will probably go to prison for it. I don't particularly care either way.
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You now sound like an autocrat. But really, wise-up to what is happening. It might take a while to come out, but I am putting down on record that much of the "rioting" you are seeing is via professional agitation groups whose sole aim is to create chaos and sew the seeds of sympathy for Trumpers. Conflating protestors with rioters and looters is part of the plan. Already we are seeing word that the white man shot last night is a "MagaMartyr" despite there being no clear details as to what happened. It is going to get worse. By design.

I want nothing more than to owe this forum an apology, and if I am wrong, I will offer one.
 
parklane1 said:
Lets all TRY and look at this in a detached way ( i know this must be hard for some sadly), those who are shooting folks are wrong but so are those who are rioting and setting fire to other folks property. Until we can ALL get our heads around those two FACTS then sadly it will never end.
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If it were that simple...
 
thfcsteff said:
You now sound like an autocrat. But really, wise-up to what is happening. It might take a while to come out, but I am putting down on record that much of the "rioting" you are seeing is via professional agitation groups whose sole aim is to create chaos and sew the seeds of sympathy for Trumpers. Conflating protestors with rioters and looters is part of the plan. Already we are seeing word that the white man shot last night is a "MagaMartyr" despite there being no clear details as to what happened. It is going to get worse. By design.

I want nothing more than to owe this forum an apology, and if I am wrong, I will offer one.
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The last election was dominated by bots and fake social media accounts. This one will be professional agitators.

I worry where it will end.
 
markysimmo said:
"It's not the police who need to be retrained, it's the public. We have grown into a mouthy, mobile phone wielding, vulgar, uncivil society with no personal responsibility and the attitude of 'it's the other person's fault, you owe me'. A society where children grow up with no boundaries or knowledge or concern for civil society and personal responsibility.

When an officer says "Put your hands up," then put your hands up! Don't reach for something in your pocket, your lap, your seat. There's plenty of reason for a police officer to feel threatened, there have been multiple assaults and ambushes on police officers lately. Comply with requests from the officer, have your day in court. Don't mouth off, or fight, or refuse to comply... that escalates the situation.

Police officers are our sons and daughters, fathers and mothers, brothers and sisters. They're black, white, brown, all colors, all ethnicities, all faiths, male and female, they are us. They see the worst side of humanity... the raped children, the bloody mangled bodies of traffic victims, the bruised and battered victims of domestic violence, homicide victims, body parts... day after day.

They work holidays while we have festive meals with our families. They miss school events with their kids, birthdays, anniversaries, all those special occasions that we take for granted. They work in all types of weather, under dangerous conditions, for relatively low pay.

They have extensive training, but they are human. When there are numerous attacks on them, they become hyper vigilant for a reason, they have become targets. When a police officer encounters any person... any person, whether at a traffic stop, a street confrontation, an arrest, whatever... that situation has the potential to become life threatening. You, Mr & Mrs/Miss Civilian, also have the responsibility of keeping the situation from getting out of control.

Many law enforcement officers are Veterans. They've been in service to this nation most of their lives, whether on the battlefield or protecting us here at home. They are the only thing that stands between us and anarchy in the streets.

If you want to protect your child, teach them respect."

~ Sheriff David Clarke
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That is all well and good if it applies to everyone equally. The issue that many seem to miss is that there isn’t equality. The colour of your skin does seem to matter. How you are treated by the police often depends on the pigmentation of your skin.

I’m not into political correctness. But I think if you were black living in the US you’d probably have quite a different take on the issue.


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Danishfurniturelover said:
The last election was dominated by bots and fake social media accounts. This one will be professional agitators.

I worry where it will end.
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There are always a few idiots. That should be said too, and a few dimwits are losing their senses. There is also a lot of barely contAined anger. Add agitation groups to this mix and you have fire. Trump staked his campaign (like the last) on America needing to get tough. John Wayne tough guy flimflam. This is not conspiracy, the chain of evidence is out there. He continues to hide in plain sight.

I know you see it; I equally know some don't.

It goes beyond being right or wrong on a forum, and again, I want to be so fudging wrong I look like a giant tinfoil arse.
 
thfcsteff said:
You now sound like an autocrat. But really, wise-up to what is happening. It might take a while to come out, but I am putting down on record that much of the "rioting" you are seeing is via professional agitation groups whose sole aim is to create chaos and sew the seeds of sympathy for Trumpers. Conflating protestors with rioters and looters is part of the plan. Already we are seeing word that the white man shot last night is a "MagaMartyr" despite there being no clear details as to what happened. It is going to get worse. By design.

I want nothing more than to owe this forum an apology, and if I am wrong, I will offer one.
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Always the other lot, huh?

Is it really that hard to accept that there's a scummy underclass that had been looking to riot for years. Add that to a bunch of millennials desperate to be more outraged than the rest of the next one and you have a perfect excuse.
 
SpurMeUp said:
That is all well and good if it applies to everyone equally. The issue that many seem to miss is that there isn’t equality. The colour of your skin does seem to matter. How you are treated by the police often depends on the pigmentation of your skin.

I’m not into political correctness. But I think if you were black living in the US you’d probably have quite a different take on the issue.


Sitting on my porcelain throne using glory-glory.co.uk mobile app
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You're right.

The data show that you're more likely to have an encounter with the police turn violent if you're white or Hispanic.
 
LutonSpurs said:
Biden is awful. The only decent option was Sanders and the Dems fudged that.
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Biden's fine. I agree he was not the best option from one perspective, a progressive one mostly, and even though I'm a leftie nor was Sanders IMO. I like Sanders but this was not his time either for rather different reasons. Biden is exactly what America needs right now IMO. A good empathetic man who will try and bring America back together again, back from the brink really. This is a nearly impossible task but it needs to be attempted none the less.
 
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