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Ange in or out?

Ange in or out?

  • In

    Votes: 78 41.5%

  • Out

    Votes: 110 58.5%
  • Total voters
    188
Not changed my decision. United were a shambles. And yet, our defensive frailties were still there and I'd say if that game is replayed multiple times, it ends as a fairly comfortable United win 3 or 4 times out of 5. Bruno free header in middle of the goal, yes VDV clearance incredible but as McCoist said, Hojlund shouldn't have given him the chance. Should have buried it. It was an extremely extremely poor game in the cold light of day. And I still go back to the point that the standard of our football and the individual performances of most our players are on a downward trajectory. Who is improving under him? Where are we actually going football wise?

I'm glad we won a trophy but there's so much unnecessary bullsh*t around this guy. Even Brennan Johnson said it was a drop the mic moment after all the criticism he'd received. The criticism is deserved. 17th is absolutely unacceptable. It's disgusting. And there isn't any sign of improvement in the way we play. 2 years in and taking the euphoria aside we really struggled to string 2 passes together at times and create much. Our goal summed up the game.
 
Silly McSilly Face said:
Not changed my decision. United were a shambles. And yet, our defensive frailties were still there and I'd say if that game is replayed multiple times, it ends as a fairly comfortable United win 3 or 4 times out of 5. Bruno free header in middle of the goal, yes VDV clearance incredible but as McCoist said, Hojlund shouldn't have given him the chance. Should have buried it. It was an extremely extremely poor game in the cold light of day. And I still go back to the point that the standard of our football and the individual performances of most our players are on a downward trajectory. Who is improving under him? Where are we actually going football wise?

I'm glad we won a trophy but there's so much unnecessary bullsh*t around this guy. Even Brennan Johnson said it was a drop the mic moment after all the criticism he'd received. The criticism is deserved. 17th is absolutely unacceptable. It's disgusting. And there isn't any sign of improvement in the way we play. 2 years in and taking the euphoria aside we really struggled to string 2 passes together at times and create much. Our goal summed up the game.
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While I may agree with the end conclusion, I think you misread the game completely.

United were never going to win that game, and if we had any of Deki/Maddison/Bergvall available, our transition game would have been better and we probably would have scored another 1 or 2.

We did to United what Liverpool did to us in the CL final, get the goal, sit back and watch you huff and puff, you really think Romero & VDV were worried about Hojlund and Maguire as strikers?

His league tactics have been awful, but we got 3 clean sheets in the final 4 EL games, and that's why Frankfurt/Glimt/United never really had a sniff
 
Silly McSilly Face said:
Not changed my decision. United were a shambles. And yet, our defensive frailties were still there and I'd say if that game is replayed multiple times, it ends as a fairly comfortable United win 3 or 4 times out of 5. Bruno free header in middle of the goal, yes VDV clearance incredible but as McCoist said, Hojlund shouldn't have given him the chance. Should have buried it. It was an extremely extremely poor game in the cold light of day. And I still go back to the point that the standard of our football and the individual performances of most our players are on a downward trajectory. Who is improving under him? Where are we actually going football wise?

I'm glad we won a trophy but there's so much unnecessary bullsh*t around this guy. Even Brennan Johnson said it was a drop the mic moment after all the criticism he'd received. The criticism is deserved. 17th is absolutely unacceptable. It's disgusting. And there isn't any sign of improvement in the way we play. 2 years in and taking the euphoria aside we really struggled to string 2 passes together at times and create much. Our goal summed up the game.
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Were you able to enjoy the game amidst such analysis?
But yes. I do agree that there is an awful, awful lot of 'unecessary bullsh*t' around 'this guy'...
 
Hotshot-Tottenham said:
changed my mind, heart over head... but how can we sack him now??
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Me too. Been Ange out for months snd never expected us to win a cup. But hes won us the biggest cup comp we were in.
He deserves to carry on.
Id expect him to be manager next season with a huge eye on our league form from above. If we are in the bottom 6 after 10 games though he will be gone i reckon.
 
Raziel said:
While I may agree with the end conclusion, I think you misread the game completely.

United were never going to win that game, and if we had any of Deki/Maddison/Bergvall available, our transition game would have been better and we probably would have scored another 1 or 2.

We did to United what Liverpool did to us in the CL final, get the goal, sit back and watch you huff and puff, you really think Romero & VDV were worried about Hojlund and Maguire as strikers?

His league tactics have been awful, but we got 3 clean sheets in the final 4 EL games, and that's why Frankfurt/Glimt/United never really had a sniff
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Seemed like they'd had more of a sniff when van de Ven, cleared the ball amazingly off the line? I couldn't see us winning if it had got to 1-1, our counter attacking died well before.that point as all the players were running on empty. At best it would have gone to penalties - do you think, with the players we had on the pitch, we would have won a shootout? the spectacular goal line clearance won us that game, but that's how close we were to losing.
 
thfcsteff said:
Were you able to enjoy the game amidst such analysis?
But yes. I do agree that there is an awful, awful lot of 'unecessary bullsh*t' around 'this guy'...
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I mean did you enjoy the game? It was pretty torturous to watch. I thought we were playing with fire 2nd half too. Reminded me of watching Gareth Southgate England sitting back on a 1-0 against poor teams....
 
Raziel said:
While I may agree with the end conclusion, I think you misread the game completely.

United were never going to win that game, and if we had any of Deki/Maddison/Bergvall available, our transition game would have been better and we probably would have scored another 1 or 2.

We did to United what Liverpool did to us in the CL final, get the goal, sit back and watch you huff and puff, you really think Romero & VDV were worried about Hojlund and Maguire as strikers?

His league tactics have been awful, but we got 3 clean sheets in the final 4 EL games, and that's why Frankfurt/Glimt/United never really had a sniff
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But let's be honest the quality of those teams are very questionable. And even v. United those 2 chances they DID have were far better than we managed to create v Liverpool. On another day, we lose that final because of them and the narrative would then turn to how bad the actual footballing performance was....
 
Silly McSilly Face said:
I mean did you enjoy the game? It was pretty torturous to watch. I thought we were playing with fire 2nd half too. Reminded me of watching Gareth Southgate England sitting back on a 1-0 against poor teams....
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I fudging LOVED it.
You know why?
Because despite missing our three most creative players, we did what many thought we couldn't do and found a way to win. And we won. A major trophy.
 
thfcsteff said:
I fudging LOVED it.
You know why?
Because despite missing our three most creative players, we did what many thought we couldn't do and found a way to win. And we won. A major trophy.
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You're getting confused. He said did you enjoy the game, not the outcome.
 
Mosquito_Coasting said:
I'd take Grealish, think being in a less robotic system and having more licence to roam and affect games would bring his hunger back. 29 isn't washed up territory
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Bags of experience of being around a winning side too. Potentially great for the young lads.

Glenda's Legs said:
I’m fully expecting to get comments when I get home about it being a crap game and us hanging on etc. But you know what - after dropping off my rucksack I’m heading back into town for a bloody trophy parade! And Ange has given me that so I will be singing his name loud and proud.
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Arsenal fan in work yesterday morning’s first words were, “That was the worst final I’ve ever seen,” to which I replied, “I honestly couldn’t give a s hit, nor could our trophy cabinet.”
 
harr1984 said:
Loved all of it - despite our creative midfielders being wiped out we had a game plan and executed it. Was beautiful seeing the defence in unison, and all midfielders and forwards working so hard off the ball - you could see how much they wanted it. Next question.....
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Maybe you're also getting confused but the question wasn't aimed at you.
 
Glenda's Legs said:
I’m fully expecting to get comments when I get home about it being a crap game and us hanging on etc. But you know what - after dropping off my rucksack I’m heading back into town for a bloody trophy parade! And Ange has given me that so I will be singing his name loud and proud.
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Yes. They're around. There's a few here. Just remember, if we'd lost and been more open, we'd have been 'sexy', Ange would be useless, etc, etc...
 
Mikey10 said:
Bags of experience of being around a winning side too. Potentially great for the young lads.



Arsenal fan in work yesterday morning’s first words were, “That was the worst final I’ve ever seen,” to which I replied, “I honestly couldn’t give a s hit, nor could our trophy cabinet.”
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I’m desperately hoping my connecting flight is on time as it should allow me to make an “entrance” in our local for all the late-lunchtime (spammer) drinkers before heading back into London for the parade. “17 th and I don’t know how, we won it in Bilbao” is my planned entrance. I suspect my husband will have his head in his hands. (His own fault - on Tuesday he said I will meet you and take your luggage home. Yesterday it was “have you looked into left luggage at Liverpool Street)
 
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