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Ange in or out?

Ange in or out?

  • In

    Votes: 80 48.8%

  • Out

    Votes: 84 51.2%
  • Total voters
    164
Writing was on the wall many months ago.

We should have binned him late last year. So far out of his depth. Mason would have done a better job.

18 defeats this season says it all.

I’d get him gone today. Forget giving him the second leg it’s just dragging out the inevitable.

The poorest managerial appointment Levy has made in his time here.
 
I am struggling to keep supporting Ange. My reasoning/excuse at the moment for not changing my vote to Ange Out is that a) the last game I watched was the Caraboa first leg against Liverpool. Since then I’ve been travelling and my info pretty much comes from here and a few different match report sites. Not had a chance to catch up with any high(low)lights so can’t make a judgement based on seeing us play myself and b) I am still totally behind the rebuild philosophy, which i accept - and expect - will take time, but still expect us to be playing to a format/shape/structure that the players can understand and build on. But based on what I have seen before going away and on what I am reading now, I am questionning if that is ever going to happen.
I don’t want us to have to change manager yet again but I do think a reckoning is due at the end of the season.
If we can win the EL then Ange gets a bit longer. If we get knocked out but there are signs of a team style and structure that takes hold in the last games then he maybe gets a reprieve. Otherwise it’s hard to see how he can survive.
Maybe I should just be more hard-nosed and say he is never going to torn it around, but I guess I still want him to.
When I am back in April and can see it with my own eyes I may change my mind.
 
Grays_1890 said:
He is rotating alot, Diaz plays far less than he did, loads of depth on their bench and he is not afraid to pick "lesser" sides with the quality still in it to navigate games. Everything just now seems a last throw of the dice here. Solanke yesterday...........sheshhhhh
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Hang on, you’re blaming Ange for Solanke’s injury last night???
 
I'm not in or out, I can't see him being here next season regardless of what happens on the EL so I'm not going to get too hung up on it.

Ange wouldn't have been my choice but I supported him as I always try to, although that hasn't always been easy in the past, and hoped for the best.
It's a rebuild and there was always going to be pain and for all that I think as a club we have made reasonable progress some areas still need a lot of work.
We've been ruthless with letting some of the squad go, I hope we continue to be, there is a couple here who really need moved on.
The middle of the pitch really needs addressing, both a dm and an am are needed.
For all that we have Bentancur, Bissouma, Sarr, Bergvall, kulu and Maddison it's a vacuum in there and we can't appear to get the right balance and combination.

IMHO we are still two seasons from being consistent top four challengers no matter who the manager is.
Not saying that another manager couldn't do better than Ange, but I don't see it as the panacea that others do.
 
Grays_1890 said:
He is rotating alot, Diaz plays far less than he did, loads of depth on their bench and he is not afraid to pick "lesser" sides with the quality still in it to navigate games. Everything just now seems a last throw of the dice here. Solanke yesterday...........sheshhhhh
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What was wrong with giving Solanke the last 20 minutes last night? He was back in full training and hadn't been out for that long.
 
Finney Is Back said:
What was wrong with giving Solanke the last 20 minutes last night? He was back in full training and hadn't been out for that long.
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Was more a shhhhh at the situation, first 11 shocking, Tel looks an absolute donk of a loan and low and behold we throw on Solanke to rescue the day and low and behold, he hobbles off. Just more indicative of us at the moment than blaming Ange, but I would like to have thought we would have got through better and not have to have used him last night or in the situation of desperation
 
Grays_1890 said:
Was more a shhhhh at the situation, first 11 shocking, Tel looks an absolute donk of a loan and low and behold we throw on Solanke to rescue the day and low and behold, he hobbles off. Just more indicative of us at the moment than blaming Ange, but I would like to have thought we would have got through better and not have to have used him last night or in the situation of desperation
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4 players played CF in a game we had one shot on target in
 
Grays_1890 said:
Was more a shhhhh at the situation, first 11 shocking, Tel looks an absolute donk of a loan and low and behold we throw on Solanke to rescue the day and low and behold, he hobbles off. Just more indicative of us at the moment than blaming Ange, but I would like to have thought we would have got through better and not have to have used him last night or in the situation of desperation
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Tel will need time. He is a very young player moving to a new league. I don't think he is just a signing to cover until the end of this season, I think he is a long term signing (I suspect to play from the wide positions as opposed to through the middle).

We lack a physical presence at number 9 and giving Solanke the last 20 minutes was a sensible thing to do. There was no desperation about it. When players come back from injury it is quite normal for them to play a few minutes and then build up to a full game.

The injury was a contact injury that can happen any time.
 
Finney Is Back said:
Tel will need time. He is a very young player moving to a new league. I don't think he is just a signing to cover until the end of this season, I think he is a long term signing (I suspect to play from the wide positions as opposed to through the middle).

We lack a physical presence at number 9 and giving Solanke the last 20 minutes was a sensible thing to do. There was no desperation about it. When players come back from injury it is quite normal for them to play a few minutes and then build up to a full game.

The injury was a contact injury that can happen any time.
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Seen Tel pick the ball up 3 times in wide areas and run straight into an oppo player, I hope for our sake you are right, but currently he looks horrific.

I don't deny players get short minutes to get fitness back, but chucking someone on at 1 nil down because your first team look about as motivated as someone on death row its a massively different dynamic IMO. Its akin to the old FA Cup games of throwing Kane on hoping to dig us out, for me thats not the best platform for integrating recently injured players
 
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