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Andre Villas-Boas - Head Coach

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Yeah I thought that we had agreed a transfer fee and wages in summer 2012 but there was something about Moutinho' third party ownership which couldn't be resolved to Levy' satisfaction before the window closed.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...d-out-on-Portos-Joao-Moutinho-by-minutes.html

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2012/sep/04/tottenham-hotspur-joao-moutinho

Porto then purchased the remaining 15% of Joao' contact rights in January for €3m before he ended up moving to Monaco this summer.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...utinho-party-ownership-bought--Tottenham.html

Third party owners upping the price over and over as deals are being negotiated is a pretty standard tactic. Look no further than the Mkhitaryan to Liverpool negotiations.

Seems a much more likely explanation than "Levy tried to knock a few quid off" to me.
 
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The only reported incident of Levy trying to move goal posts late on is the Lloris deal and that was entirely justified.

- We make enquiery early in the summer and get quoted ridiculous fee.
- We move on and make other plans.
- Lyon come back right at the end of the window and tell us they'd like to sell at the price we had suggested.
- Knowing that they are desperate to sell and most likely having spent our money elsewhere as we still have Friedel, we counter with a slightly lower offer.
 
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So according to the paper talk AVB did not want Eriksen, Lamela, and Paulinho, and wanted Hulk, Villa and Moutinho, not to mention Willian.

We could have potentially had

Sandro Moutinho

Hulk Willian Villa

Soldado​

Potentially would have cost us the Bale money.

You're actually making it up at this stage. It was in the newspaper that he didnt want Erik Lamela, Nacer Chadli, Vlad Chiriches and Christian Eriksen http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...four-seven-summer-signings.html#ixzz2nw2z9B2F

So we wanted Capoue, Paulinho and Soldado and he played the three of them. The Moutinho thing is ridiculous he was never getable last summer and AVB went for Capoue and Paulinho instead of getting a creative midfielder. He cant blame Erik Lamela, Nacer Chadli, Vlad Chiriches and Christian Eriksen for the way his team played because he barely played any of them. The problem with the team was and remains the 4 central midfielders who cant create anything. That's AVB's doing.
 
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Third party owners upping the price over and over as deals are being negotiated is a pretty standard tactic. Look no further than the Mkhitaryan to Liverpool negotiations.

Seems a much more likely explanation than "Levy tried to knock a few quid off" to me.

Excately what happened, blaming Levy for others actions is just spacegoating.
 
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You're actually making it up at this stage. It was in the newspaper that he didnt want Erik Lamela, Nacer Chadli, Vlad Chiriches and Christian Eriksen http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...four-seven-summer-signings.html#ixzz2nw2z9B2F

So we wanted Capoue, Paulinho and Soldado and he played the three of them. The Moutinho thing is ridiculous he was never getable last summer and AVB went for Capoue and Paulinho instead of getting a creative midfielder. He cant blame Erik Lamela, Nacer Chadli, Vlad Chiriches and Christian Eriksen for the way his team played because he barely played any of them. The problem with the team was and remains the 4 central midfielders who cant create anything. That's AVB's doing.

Making it up? go and check the skysports app. It was under the morning paper talk. I do not make things up.
 
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We could have potentially signed them if AVB supposedly got his own way?

But you're making out to be that the only impediment to AVB getting his own way is Levy, when in reality the actors who impeded AVB getting all the players he wanted at Spurs are richer clubs, more successful clubs, richer more successful clubs, agents, players and 3rd party agents. And Levy.
 
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We could have potentially signed them if AVB supposedly got his own way?

Clearly we couldn't get Willian. We obviously tried and he chose Chelsea over us.

I really doubt we could have afforded Hulk and his wages.

We seemed to try hard for Villa, but he chose a CL Spanish side over us. To me not that surprising. I don't think he was gettable.

Again, the papers aren't saying that these players were all gettable, they're saying that these were the player AVB wanted the most.
 
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But you're making out to be that the only impediment to AVB getting his own way is Levy, when in reality the actors who impeded AVB getting all the players he wanted at Spurs are richer clubs, more successful clubs, richer more successful clubs, agents, players and 3rd party agents. And Levy.

I simply put what our potential line up could have been if AVB got the players he wants and nothing more.
 
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When next summer we are struggling to stop:

- Verts joining Barca or Bayern
- Lloris joining PSG
- Paulinho joining Chelski, Barca or Real

Whilst trying to look like serious suitors for some of the world's top talent after the world cup AND not spend to much on wages, perhaps without even EL footy to offer.

We'll look back on p244 in a different light then
 
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I remember hearing somewhere that we first sounded Paulinho out in November 2012. Am I making this up or has anyone else heard the same?
 
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When next summer we are struggling to stop:

- Verts joining Barca or Bayern
- Lloris joining PSG
- Paulinho joining Chelski, Barca or Real

Whilst trying to look like serious suitors for some of the world's top talent after the world cup AND not spend to much on wages, perhaps without even EL footy to offer.

We'll look back on p244 in a different light then

Which is why we really do need the manager position sorted ASAP. Giving the players a good coach to work with could sway them in their decision as to whether they should stay or go.
 
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AVB wanted to go according to this

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...os-when-Franco-Baldini-offered-to-resign.html

Tottenham Hotspur plunged into utter chaos when Franco Baldini offered to resign

Daniel Levy’s grand plan almost fell apart at the seams when their technical director offered to follow Andre Villas-Boas out the exit door


It was just before Franco Baldini had reached Tottenham Hotspur’s state-of-the-art training ground in Enfield last Monday that the news broke. Andre Villas-Boas had been sacked as Spurs’ head coach.

Baldini, hired as technical director partly on Villas-Boas’s recommendation, then, according to club sources, offered his own resignation to Spurs’ chairman Daniel Levy. It was immediately refused. If it had been accepted then Spurs’ new, modern structure would have fallen apart at the seams in one eventful morning.

Levy wants to run his club along the lines of a head coach and a director of football and has craved it ever since the disaster of signing Sergei Rebrov for a then club record £11 million in 2000 under manager George Graham only for the Ukrainian to be frozen out under Glenn Hoddle.

Never again, Levy vowed: he duly used Hoddle in tandem with David Pleat and then Juande Ramos with Damien Comolli.

Levy wants a coach who works on the training ground with the players that the club buys and does not want a manager who has too much power. He wants value for money; he want to sweat the club’s assets – with the accusation that then follows that he is a ‘numbers man’ first and foremost.

It is why Levy fretted over the sight of Emmanuel Adebayor, Spurs’ highest earner, being frozen out by Villas-Boas.

The trio had been due to hold further talks on Villas-Boas’s future, after a brief, tetchy meeting immediately after the 5-0 humiliation at home to Liverpool, but it was not necessary. Villas-Boas wanted to go; Levy wanted him to go and so the two reached agreement without Baldini.

Villas-Boas delivered Christmas presents to Spurs’ staff, as he had planned, and called the first-team squad together.

“He wanted to see everybody and, in front of the squad, he said it was the decision of the club and it’s not an easy situation for everybody but we have to respect that and continue our ways and our work because Tottenham have a lot of ambition this year,” goalkeeper Hugo Lloris said.

Baldini’s offer to then go himself was understandable but it also highlighted the apparent state of chaos at the club, which had hoped a high-powered triumvirate of chairman, technical director and head coach could drive Spurs’ forward into the Champions League places and eventually into Premier League title contention. Given the drive and ability possessed by all three men it could — should – have succeeded but the personality clashes hurt.

Baldini offered to go because he had to assume part of the responsibility for what happened with Villas-Boas and because he oversaw the £107 million spending spree last summer, which overhauled the Spurs squad with the proceeds from selling Gareth Bale to Real Madrid for £85 million.

So frantic was that activity that on the final day of the transfer window last August Baldini was in a whirl of meetings at the training ground finalising the signings of Christian Eriksen, Erik Lamela and Vlad Chiriches. It was a risky strategy but an understandable one and was initially hailed as turning a potential negative into a positive. All the players are talented, and Baldini retains faith that his signings will work.

But not all the seven were the ones wanted by Villas-Boas. The Portuguese had hoped the club would keep Bale and bring in David Villa and Hulk to form a new strike force. He had wanted Paulinho, Étienne Capoue and Roberto Soldado and was bitterly disappointed that Willian went to Chelsea.

The transfer deals were a source of tension, as detailed last week by The Telegraph, as was the club’s reluctance to implement changes to the medical department that he had recommended. Villas-Boas also clashed with the club in the row over Lloris’ head injury and, of course, the handling of Adebayor who Villas-Boas wanted out.

There was friction after Paris St-Germain made an approach to hire Villas-Boas and appeared willing to pay the £10 million compensation in his release clause. The coach decided to stay, there were murmurings over a new contract – but in the end nothing happened.

So what now for Spurs? Tim Sherwood was the obvious choice as interim head coach, not least because he has not been slow to voice his own opinion as to what should be done, including some forthright criticism of Villas-Boas.

The Capital One Cup defeat at home to West Ham United was a baptism of fire for the 44-year-old with his substitutions – withdrawing a striker for a midfielder – backfiring spectacularly.

He wants the job on a permanent basis and he is highly-rated by Levy who has allowed Sherwood a great deal of autonomy in signing players for Spurs’ development squads in his role as the club’s technical coordinator. Indeed Sherwood was considered, before Baldini’s appointment, to become technical director but it was decided he lacked experience.

He has no experience as a head coach, either, but will be given every chance to succeed having also toured Europe, spending time in Spain and Holland learning how other clubs operate, even if he has yet to find the time to gain a Uefa Pro Licence, which is a requirement of every Premier League manager.

“We know Tim because he’s worked for the club for a long time now,” Lloris said. “He has the philosophy of the club and he’s tries his best to put all the players in their best condition with his staff.”

Sherwood has apparently committed to a 4-4-2 formation for Spurs – he encouraged the same system with the club’s under-21s and under-18s – and Lloris said his first training session had ended with the demand to “just play our game and play on joy and try to keep the philosophy of the club, to attack”.

Understandably Sherwood has also already called for stability – something the Tottenham Hotspur Supporters Trust has demanded as it has asked Levy to “explain the rationale” behind Villas-Boas’s dismissal. That would presumably start with him being installed as the club’s next head coach. He has every chance to stake his claim over Christmas.
 
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Duncan Castles
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Villas-Boas pay-off to be less than £3m as dismissed coach prepares for summer return.

Tottenham's bill for removing Andre Villas-Boas as their 'head coach' is expected to amount to less than £3million, a sum which chairman Daniel Levy hopes will be made up for by his successor increasing the transfer value of the club's current squad.

According to the terms of his severance package, Villas-Boas will continue to receive a annual salary of €3m net until the summer of 2015 when his White Hart Lane contract was due to expire. Once the Portuguese takes on a job that pays at least that amount, however, Tottenham's liability ends.

Angered by a lack of support from Tottenham on transfers and squad management, Villas-Boas intends to take the rest of the season off before taking another position. He will spend Christmas with his family in Porto before returning to London to prepare for his next job

There is significant interest in the services of an individual who led FC Porto to an undefeated treble in his first full season of management and achieved the highest League win rate of any Tottenham manager since the 19th century. While Villas-Boas has received an indirect approach from AC Milan, at present his most likely destination is France.

Villas-Boas has a strong relationship with Paris Saint-Germain president Nasser Al Khelaifi, who was prepared to meet a £10m release clause to recruit his last summer. Though the 36-year-old turned down that opportunity because of his commitment to Tottenham, he is understood to regard the French champions as a club ready to properly back the right coach – a priority for his next position.

PSG currently employ Laurent Blanc on a single-season contract that includes an option for a further year. The Qatar-owned club are may change coach even if they retain the French title, while the similarly well-funded AS Monaco are expected to replace Claudio Ranieri if he fails to win it with a squad that includes Radamel Falcao, Joao Moutinho, James Rodriguez and Ricardo Carvalho, four expensively acquired players who Villas-Boas has worked with successfully in the past.

Moutinho was one of several players Villas-Boas worked to bring to Tottenham only for Levy to fail to complete transfers. The coach was particularly frustrated that a squad he felt required 'evolution' following the €100m record sale of Gareth Bale was subjected to the 'revolution' of seven summer signings, some of whom he felt were not ideal.

Villas-Boas' departure came after two meetings with Levy following Sunday's 5-0 loss to Liverpool. In the first, Villas-Boas pressed the chairman to take action against Emmanuel Adebayor, who'd been photographed with Benoit Assou-Ekotto apparently celebrating the defeat (http://twitter.com/AssouEkotto/status/412278969619476480).

Villas-Boas had asked for Adebayor to be sold or loaned in the summer following breaches of discipline, and was determined the African should go in January. When he sensed Levy would not comply in a Monday morning meeting, he agreed his own exit.

Levy believes Adebayor – Tottenham's highest earner - can be rehabilitated by a change of man management. The striker was immediately reinstated to the line-up for Wednesday's loss to West Ham.

Tim Sherwood, a trusted lieutenant of Levy's, was made caretaker coach for the cup tie with a view to a long-term appointment. "He knows the club, the League and our players as well,” said a senior club source. “He is a strong candidate to get the permanent job." Sherwood has not yet begun studying for his UEFA Pro License, but is bullish about his prospects, talking on Friday about “when I decide whether it [the Tottenham job] is right enough for me or not”.

According to Al Jazeera presented Richard Keys, Sherwood claimed Tottenham's players were “tired - over trained -and unhappy with [Villas-Boas]” ahead of their crucial away victory at Manchester United last September; an extraordinary statement for the club's technical co-ordinator to make to the media (http://twitter.com/richardajkeys/status/252109876510208001).

Now in charge of training himself, Sherwood has already lost Andros Townsend to a grade-two hamstring tear. It is understood that the England winger's injury occurred after Sherwood increased the intensity of drills in his initial session with the first team.

Tottenham's options for a more experienced appointment are restricted by the World Cup with several candidates committed to national teams until the summer. Though Capello has yet to sign a contract extension with Russia until the 2018 tournament, Levy is unlikely to match a salary worth over €6m net.

Should Sherwood perform so poorly that a further interim appointment is required, Glenn Hoddle is interested in the position. Sacked by Levy in 2003, Hoddle's reappointment was discussed by the board several weeks before Villas-Boas's exit.
 
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Its always somebody else's fault. why both parties cant take equal share of the blame is a wonder

He'll do well at PSG, i mean he has too...would be impossible not to do well

.....unlimited resources.....world class players..........poor league

if he goes there i think the bar they will set will be for him to break CL ground .....possibly win the whole thing
 
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