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American politics

Rorschach said:
This latest brick with Starlink is another case in point. Donny boy is/was/will be in Russia's corner. Bar his desire to emulate Putin's sphere-of-influence doctrine (which is failing, I might add), there must be some serious kompromat in Putin's safe, too. Some truly heinous brick from Epstein's island would be my guess. Those recordings have not surfaced.
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The funny (ironic) thing is...Putin's position gets weaker the more Donald gets hated. As Donald will be the last person to care about Donald.
Yes, he been a useful idiot, and alas, it'll be terribly messy along the way. But, he will end up an embarrassment and sick individual.
 
ricky2tricky4city said:
The funny (ironic) thing is...Putin's position gets weaker the more Donald gets hated. As Donald will be the last person to care about Donald.
Yes, he been a useful idiot, and alas, it'll be terribly messy along the way. But, he will end up an embarrassment and sick individual.
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What is incredible to me is that we are all witnessing the self-immolation of a superpower in real time. If Dems prevail in the midterms they will look to arrest the slide as best they can, and they may indeed gum up the gears a little, but the post-WWII era of Pax Americana is effectively over or in irreversible decline. And we still have at least two more years of this insane brick to navigate!!

As you said, Europe/UK must look to save itself and seek to draw in any like-minded pro-democratic states like Canada, S. Korea, etc and most importantly, Ukraine. Ukraine is the key to Europe's safety.
 
Rorschach said:
What is incredible to me is that we are all witnessing the self-immolation of a superpower in real time. If Dems prevail in the midterms they will look to arrest the slide as best they can, and they may indeed gum up the gears a little, but the post-WWII era of Pax Americana is effectively over or in irreversible decline. And we still have at least two more years of this insane brick to navigate!!

As you said, Europe/UK must look to save itself and seek to draw in any like-minded pro-democratic states like Canada, S. Korea, etc and most importantly, Ukraine. Ukraine is the key to Europe's safety.
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Was Pax Americana ever peaceful?
 
Rorschach said:
Fair point
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Don't disagree with what you mean about the post-WWII settlement but the idea of America being the peacekeepers died in Dallas in '63 (if not before) and has more been America keeping the "peace" for their economic advantage.

Although that was pre-WWII as well as seen by the imperial conquest and colonisation of Hawaii to keep sugar barons happy.
 
Lost Mango said:
Don't disagree with what you mean about the post-WWII settlement but the idea of America being the peacekeepers died in Dallas in '63 (if not before) and has more been America keeping the "peace" for their economic advantage.

Although that was pre-WWII as well as seen by the imperial conquest and colonisation of Hawaii to keep sugar barons happy.
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It is a much wider discussion, but in one context I guess it refers to global-scale conflicts, WWIII, and the stopping the current move into multipolarity. But yes, they Americanised the brick out of everywhere, whether they wanted it or not.
 
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Rorschach said:
What is incredible to me is that we are all witnessing the self-immolation of a superpower in real time. If Dems prevail in the midterms they will look to arrest the slide as best they can, and they may indeed gum up the gears a little, but the post-WWII era of Pax Americana is effectively over or in irreversible decline. And we still have at least two more years of this insane brick to navigate!!

As you said, Europe/UK must look to save itself and seek to draw in any like-minded pro-democratic states like Canada, S. Korea, etc and most importantly, Ukraine. Ukraine is the key to Europe's safety.
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There was a great talk on the wireless the other day where the guy made some terrific point about the US not actually being anywhere near the power of good its proclaimed to be and not been for a long time. In fact there is now a fairly big window of failures and getting their ar5e kicked on the world stage when you consider Vietnam, the bodged Irag/Afghan situation, Iran etc.

There is a huge irony to how America positions itself, not least because of its position on immigration despite being a near all immigrant population, their relatively recent treatment of the actual indigenous population (relative to a countries actual history)

The ability to basically wash your whole reputation and have people believe in what you are selling is a massive skill they have clearly mastered, built on "economic strength, military might, and the soft power of cultural dominance" they are clearly starting to see a decline in at least two of those if not all three.
 
Mikey10 said:
Tbh I’d take him dropping dead tomorrow if it meant we could all begin to even get to the first point of moving on.

Which is a terrible thing to say; but I feel we’re at the ‘What if someone had shot Hitler in 1938?’ point of history at this stage.
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Heydrich would have taken over, who was far more competent, and we'd all be getting ready to 'celebrate' a century of the Third Reich. Trump's personal laziness and incompetence actually spare us from the excesses of his brand of fascism
 
Clarky said:
So... America has clearly fallen, possibly heading towards civil war again. They are now allied with Russia, we in the UK and wider Europe are staunchly allied with Ukraine, who were illegally invaded by Russia, (in an attempt to entirely control the Black Sea and build a land bridge further into Eastern Europe, to further their phased destruction of the US and Europe), how can America be our or Europe's allies?
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Who has considered America an ally since the fall of the Berlin wall? All they've brought to the world is terrorism, tens of millions of refugees and economic instability.
 
So whilst Musk’s Starlink is being manipulated to help out Putin, down in Latin America there’s increasing evidence that Zuckerberg’s META is being used to help out another of Trump’s allies…

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Former Milei aide arrested after pregnant woman shot in Bolivia

Argentine political strategist Fernando Cerimedo under arrest in Bolivia; Woman, who says she is pregnant with his child, survives shooting and accuses him of orchestrating attack.
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MartyFunkhouser said:
All the Maga cucks from the UK are now back loving Russia and making up lies about Ukraine to align themselves with Mango Mussolini
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By their own 'patriotic' logic they should be lined up and euthanised. This is why 'chaos' coupled with such hard societal divisions is just joy for the puppeteers. Half of these tragic cunnies would top themselves if the Tangoed Raper urged them to while the crowd bayed U - S - A repeatedly. We saw the same efforts at the begining of the war. Where actual Nazis in America were decrying made up Nazis in Ukraine. It was like Gary Glitter calling Saville a nonce.
 
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