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American politics

SubZero said:
I really hate the word "woke". It doesn't mean anything, it's just a slur. Woke from what? Would it be considered "woke" today to abolish slavery? Is it bad that a country with a black population of nearly 50 million gets more black actors into their entertainment industry? Is it bad that all movies meant for a world wide audience doesn't consist of 99% whites, except for tokens or bad guys?? There's a reason "woke" movies set box records for mediocre products. They cater to more people and their wallets. People from all around the world in movies meant to be successful all around the world as a product meant to be as profitable as possible. The only ones who would feel threatened by this would be white people feeling they're losing chances they never had to begin with, hoping to get something by their number rather than their skills. A non-binary character in a video game? Who the f*ck cares? That's not to say that things can't go too far, but that has more to do with stupidity rather than ideology.
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And this entire post, just shows how little people actually listen to and understand what people are saying.

And it has nothing to do with black or female leads or major roles in films.

I mean the same people that call out woke shyte, love characters such as Ripley, Major, Beatrix, Leeloo, Clarice and hundreds of other female characters and leads...Or black leads and characters in films like the Colour Purple, Seven, Blade, Candy Man, Boyz in the Hood etc etc...

Maybe it's something else...

Is amazing how spew out this rubbish and dint even understand the points they are making.
 
Baleforce said:
Star Wars was always woke, Leia was always the most badass and nobody was racist.

But being woke is universally a good thing, anyone who doesn’t understand that is either stupid, a clam, or both.
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I dont know - the main message of Star Wars has always been about eugenics, inheritance and nepostism. It flirted with meritocracy in the penultimate film, but reversed that in the last one because the american right kicked off big style about Rae being discovered to be working class.
 
SubZero said:
I really hate the word "woke". It doesn't mean anything, it's just a slur. Woke from what? Would it be considered "woke" today to abolish slavery? Is it bad that a country with a black population of nearly 50 million gets more black actors into their entertainment industry? Is it bad that all movies meant for a world wide audience doesn't consist of 99% whites, except for tokens or bad guys?? There's a reason "woke" movies set box records for mediocre products. They cater to more people and their wallets. People from all around the world in movies meant to be successful all around the world as a product meant to be as profitable as possible. The only ones who would feel threatened by this would be white people feeling they're losing chances they never had to begin with, hoping to get something by their number rather than their skills. A non-binary character in a video game? Who the f*ck cares? That's not to say that things can't go too far, but that has more to do with stupidity rather than ideology.
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I always autotranslate the word woke to 'decent'. It works well.
 
SubZero said:
I really hate the word "woke". It doesn't mean anything, it's just a slur. Woke from what? Would it be considered "woke" today to abolish slavery? Is it bad that a country with a black population of nearly 50 million gets more black actors into their entertainment industry? Is it bad that all movies meant for a world wide audience doesn't consist of 99% whites, except for tokens or bad guys?? There's a reason "woke" movies set box records for mediocre products. They cater to more people and their wallets. People from all around the world in movies meant to be successful all around the world as a product meant to be as profitable as possible. The only ones who would feel threatened by this would be white people feeling they're losing chances they never had to begin with, hoping to get something by their number rather than their skills. A non-binary character in a video game? Who the f*ck cares? That's not to say that things can't go too far, but that has more to do with stupidity rather than ideology.
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And its always a bunch of small example BS thats over blown or lied about

A kid in Brighton who wanted to identify as a dog and its "ohhhhh the schools are being taken over our kids futures are doomed"

These days if you don't wanna see people who are different bashed over the head for just existing then you receive a label for it, as someone else said, its just called being decent
 
Grays_1890 said:
And its always a bunch of small example BS thats over blown or lied about

A kid in Brighton who wanted to identify as a dog and its "ohhhhh the schools are being taken over our kids futures are doomed"
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They better be careful....

'The illegal immigrants.... they're eating the dawgs!'
 
Grays_1890 said:
And its always a bunch of small example BS thats over blown or lied about

A kid in Brighton who wanted to identify as a dog and its "ohhhhh the schools are being taken over our kids futures are doomed"

These days if you don't wanna see people who are different bashed over the head for just existing then you receive a label for it, as someone else said, its just called being decent
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Oi you leave my adopted home town out of it.

There actually closing schools in Brighton because the lack of children(high house prices mean parents can't afford to live there) so would probably be glad to have a kid who identifies as a dog.
 
SkipRat said:
It was until you wrote that pathetic BS.

If you want to see for yourself then go listen to what people are saying, go look at how the Dragon Age game is being torn apart...

Look at Disney flop after Disney flop, go read all the media articles that are blaming these failures on racists and bigots and the fans are the problem...

If you want the answers then open your eyes and see what is going on... There is no one such source you just have to look at what is going on...

And if you can't understand that p*ssing on the things that people love, then call them racist bigots for getting upset for seeing the things they have been a fan of go up in flames in the name of woke BS (That by the way, that everyone of all sexes and races loved)... Then wht do you think is going to happen?

Or openly blaming everything on white men, white privilege.

That is down to you, the left, and the democrates, and no one else.
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SkipRat said:
And this entire post, just shows how little people actually listen to and understand what people are saying.

And it has nothing to do with black or female leads or major roles in films.

I mean the same people that call out woke shyte, love characters such as Ripley, Major, Beatrix, Leeloo, Clarice and hundreds of other female characters and leads...Or black leads and characters in films like the Colour Purple, Seven, Blade, Candy Man, Boyz in the Hood etc etc...

Maybe it's something else...

Is amazing how spew out this rubbish and dint even understand the points they are making.
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I have asked you repeatedly for who you listen to and have been influenced by on this. For whatever reason that's been a bridge too far for you. In between saying that you're just seeing it for yourself you're also saying that there are people who "call out woke shyte", people who apparently are worth paying attention to and listening to. You're obviously quite knowledgeable on what they think, who they like, what they dislike.

Who are you referring to? Who should we all be listening to on this?

Who do you listen to that call out the "woke shyte"?

You say people aren't willing to listen or understand. You're not even saying who you think are worth listening to and understanding.
 
braineclipse said:
I have asked you repeatedly for who you listen to and have been influenced by on this. For whatever reason that's been a bridge too far for you. In between saying that you're just seeing it for yourself you're also saying that there are people who "call out woke shyte", people who apparently are worth paying attention to and listening to. You're obviously quite knowledgeable on what they think, who they like, what they dislike.

Who are you referring to? Who should we all be listening to on this?

Who do you listen to that call out the "woke shyte"?

You say people aren't willing to listen or understand. You're not even saying who you think are worth listening to and understanding.
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And I told you i have worked out for myself thank you.

What part of this do you not understand?
 
One of the hardest things for me is that the hard right (and hard left) are making up information and passing them off as factual. I really struggle with this. When facts become too difficult for people to accept, let's make them up, let's amplify their fears and create a bogeyman for them. Elon Musk with his "free speech" agenda is one of the biggest facilitators of this. I hope Jack Dorsey and Co choke on their money for selling out Twitter.

The so called "woke" agenda is one example of populist amplification. Sometimes the stuff does go too far but for me it's not a concern like Climate change. That terrifies me and this year with hurricane Milton and the floods in Valencia is there for everyone to see. To deny it is effectively like denying physics! It's like a resurrection of the flat earth society.

And again in America, Biden tried to do some really good things on the Climate through the Inflation Reduction Act, encouraging electric vehicles and targets to cut emissions by 40%. These were good things that are now likely to be rolled back. I don't get why the Dems didn't defend their record more vigorously during the campaign, quite the opposite in fact. Trump and his misinformation machine spewed all kinds of rubbish almost unfettered. And unfortunately, people want the simple solutions put forward by populists. It's the same every where I guess *sigh.*

I really pray for a return to centrist politics. But Centrist politics for everyone not just a few wealthy people.
 
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Grays_1890 said:
And its always a bunch of small example BS thats over blown or lied about

A kid in Brighton who wanted to identify as a dog and its "ohhhhh the schools are being taken over our kids futures are doomed"

These days if you don't wanna see people who are different bashed over the head for just existing then you receive a label for it, as someone else said, its just called being decent
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Nah, its not... it's called pandering to a persons delusion.

With new ones up everyday, by people living in echo chambers who have never been told your wrong who convince themselves they are correct.

You pronouns are determined by your sex organs.
 
I'm still shocked that so many people actually voted for the psycho orangutan.

That said, I'm not too worried about it. I can't remember my life being much affected by him being president the last time, and it didn't change notably after he was gone. Americans have reason to worry though. If he goes through with the custom wall, with ridiculous taxes on imported goods, it will damage their economy in the long run. It's like tinkling your pants when it's cold. Feels warm for a short period, then it gets nasty.

Also, it was quite amusing last time, with the stable genius making a fool of himself in front of the rest of the world, week in, week out.
 
Kandi1977 said:
I'm still shocked that so many people actually voted for the psycho orangutan.

That said, I'm not too worried about it. I can't remember my life being much affected by him being president the last time, and it didn't change notably after he was gone. Americans have reason to worry though. If he goes through with the custom wall, with ridiculous taxes on imported goods, it will damage their economy in the long run. It's like tinkling your pants when it's cold. Feels warm for a short period, then it gets nasty.

Also, it was quite amusing last time, with the stable genius making a fool of himself in front of the rest of the world, week in, week out.
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I think it will end in tears much the same way Boris's term did. It's a real coalition of Egos; Trump, Vance, Musk, RFK. It would be funny if the stakes were not so high. I think it will seriously damage America too.
 
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