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Alen Halilovic
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indianspur
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just checked out this player Serge Gnabry at Arse....
Serge Gnabry (born 14 July 1995) is a German footballer who plays as a midfielder for Arsenal
Gnabry's former club VfB Stuttgart agreed a £100,000 deal with Premier League side Arsenal in 2010, but he had to wait until 2011, when he was 16, to join the English side.[3][4] Gnabry officially joined Arsenal for the 2011–12 season in which he played for the under-18s for the majority of the season but after impressive displays, Gnabry was then promoted to the Reserves.[5] By the end of the season, Gnabry had played six games, scoring two goals.[5]
The 2012–13 season started off well for Gnabry after he was called up to the Arsenal first team for a pre-season friendly against FC Köln in which he played 24 minutes in coming on at half-time and then being replaced by Marouane Chamakh in the 69th minute.[6] Gnabry then made his professional first-team debut for Arsenal on 26 September 2012 against Coventry City in the League Cup in which he came on in the 72nd minute for Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain as Arsenal routed Coventry 6–1.[7] On 20 October 2012 he made his Premier League debut in the 1–0 defeat against Norwich City in Carrow Road, becoming Arsenal's third youngest player in the league's history, after Jack Wheelchair and Cesc Fàbregas. Four days later, he made his Champions League debut, coming on as a substitute in Arsenal's 2–0 home loss to FC Schalke 04.
All the above first team appearances happened when he was 17 years old
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indianspur
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^^Different frogs, different times
Holiga knows his stuff; if he says the kid can't come here till he's 18, I'm sure it's correct.
but i was originally under impression that it was his father who wanted Halilovic to remain in Zagreb for another year, not Spurs who in fact wanted the boy to join Spurs immediately. Holiga said this himself.Il see if i can find the info
mudshark
Chris Armstrong
This may be the difference.
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indianspur
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Croatia have joined the EU as of this summer
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
^^Different frogs, different times
Holiga knows his stuff; if he says the kid can't come here till he's 18, I'm sure it's correct.
Yes, a lot of different rules for different countries, areas, economic zones and whatnot.
I would be inclined to trust Holiga too, of anyone giving us info on this he's probably the one most likely to know. I'm not sure he's correct unless he specifically says he's looked into it and found out for sure though, for now I would take his word on it though.
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indianspur
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10th July
Croatian reporter @AlexHoliga stating Dinamo`s Hallovic and Jedvaj wont be joining us afterall. #THFC
Mr @AlexHoliga stating we had a 20 Million euro bid accepted by Zagreb however their players families decided against the move. #THFC
We was informed of the pairs decision to say no yesterday evening via @AlexHoliga. #THFC
28th July
@AlexHoliga reckons the rumours are he could move this summer after all, with Arsenal the likeliest destination.
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Plus Jedvaj moved to Roma whilst still 17
Croatian reporter @AlexHoliga stating Dinamo`s Hallovic and Jedvaj wont be joining us afterall. #THFC
Mr @AlexHoliga stating we had a 20 Million euro bid accepted by Zagreb however their players families decided against the move. #THFC
We was informed of the pairs decision to say no yesterday evening via @AlexHoliga. #THFC
28th July
@AlexHoliga reckons the rumours are he could move this summer after all, with Arsenal the likeliest destination.
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Plus Jedvaj moved to Roma whilst still 17
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indianspur
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Not a lot was known about Tomislav Gomelt when he joined Tottenham Hotspur as a 16 year-old from Zagreb, Croatia. It seemed like just a further influx of Croatian talent to go along with Vedran Croluka, Luka Modric, and Niko Kranjcar. Gomelt hasn't made a huge impact at Tottenham Hotspur, but he has put together some good performances for the Next Gen team and as a result the club sent him on loan to Espanyol in January.
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indianspur
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we should simply sign Halilovic and stick him in the nextgen team, IF he is not allowed to join the first team squad
mudshark
Chris Armstrong
That does appear to be the position, ie he wouldn't be able to sign a senior contract, whereas his father is adamant he doesn't want him playing reserve team football or stuck in with the kids. Ergo, it's not an option at present.
mudshark
Chris Armstrong
I know, but not everything changes overnight, least of all where football is concerned. There's probably a timetable for all these things to be brought into line.
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Nolita Spur
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We should just buy Halilovic and loan him to Roma for a year or two as part of our deal to take Lamela. Simple really. Not sure how Baldini hasn't sorted that out already.
JerusalemMan
Chris Perry
That's not a bad idea.
Though would Roma use him very much considering his age and their inability to keep him long-term
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
Signing him to send him out on loan directly to somewhere that isn't Zagreb could be a very good option for us and for Halilovic and his family. If they don't agree a deal with us (or some other club) then he'll be staying at Dinamo, something they seemingly aren't too happy about.
Signing for us to go to loan somewhere straight away might be a very good option for them. Although Roma probably isn't the right club there should be a club somewhere that would represent the right loan move for both Halilovic and Spurs.
Signing for us to go to loan somewhere straight away might be a very good option for them. Although Roma probably isn't the right club there should be a club somewhere that would represent the right loan move for both Halilovic and Spurs.
Lost Mango
Pascal Chimbonda
Isn't this the sort of trading/behaviour we slate Chelsea for?
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
Yes. And at first it might be seen as hypocritical to be suggesting something like this, but I can think of 3 reasons why it's not.
1. Most of the people that do that are slating Chelsea for this are making a point about quantity, not just the action of signing a player and directly loaning that player to a different club. Something we've done as well in the past, but not with anyone as expensive as Halilovic of course.
2. In addition quite a few of the people making a point about this have been saying that there should be rules in place to prevent this. I think it's perfectly fair to say that there should be rules in place to prevent or limit something, but still continue to do it as long as those rules aren't in place.
3. Chelsea are ****s.
AberYid
Steven Caulker
When they do it with 4 or 5 people, yes.
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Nolita Spur
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Agree with AberYid and braineclipse. With Chelsea it's clearly a policy aimed at snapping up young talent that other clubs might be interested in, with no clear plan for future integration of the player into the squad - see de Bruyne, Courtouis (Cech is still fairly young for a keeper), Lukaku, etc.
Halilovic is clearly on the outs at his current club, wants regular playing time but isn't developed enough to get it at Spurs at the moment. Seems like a purchase and loan out might be mutually beneficial.
Plus Spurs (despite these rumours of a 50M BPS war chest) clearly aren't in a financial position to buy young talent simply to prevent other clubs from improving or for use as future bargaining chips in transfers for established stars. Also our club isn't owned by dirty money. Don't think we need to worry about walking down Chelsea's path.
Halilovic is clearly on the outs at his current club, wants regular playing time but isn't developed enough to get it at Spurs at the moment. Seems like a purchase and loan out might be mutually beneficial.
Plus Spurs (despite these rumours of a 50M BPS war chest) clearly aren't in a financial position to buy young talent simply to prevent other clubs from improving or for use as future bargaining chips in transfers for established stars. Also our club isn't owned by dirty money. Don't think we need to worry about walking down Chelsea's path.