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2025/26 pre-season

For me the difference is that I'm not even seeing Spence get beaten. The times he's exposed are of his own doing alongside a failure to react.

If he played with Porro's intensity I think Spence would be a good full back defensively. Issue is that he defends like a winger
 
Lilbaz said:
No we can bring academy players in.
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Turns out that BM had 14 subs on the bench and made 10 outfield subs. We had 9 which made me think the match day structure was like a normal match. It wasn't. So 2 keepers on the bench would have been standard for this friendly. We just had a reduced bench because of our injury list. It's possible that Solanke and Udogie were in Germany but they couldn't make the match day squad.

So Spurs got back from Seoul and the squad disseminated. Some U21s have been loaned since. 1st team then took a much smaller group to Germany and the U21s had the game against Enfield on the 5th Aug. I think the academy players you mention were probably wrapped up in that U21 game. We couldn't have called any up at short notice because it was a different country.
 
Muttley said:
Turns out that BM had 14 subs on the bench and made 10 outfield subs. We had 9 which made me think the match day structure was like a normal match. It wasn't. So 2 keepers on the bench would have been standard for this friendly. We just had a reduced bench because of our injury list. It's possible that Solanke and Udogie were in Germany but they couldn't make the match day squad.

So Spurs got back from Seoul and the squad disseminated. Some U21s have been loaned since. 1st team then took a much smaller group to Germany and the U21s had the game against Enfield on the 5th Aug. I think the academy players you mention were probably wrapped up in that U21 game. We couldn't have called any up at short notice because it was a different country.
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We didn't think we needed to. Probably better for the academy players to get a full 90 than be 9th choice sub.
 
Lilbaz said:
We didn't think we needed to. Probably better for the academy players to get a full 90 than be 9th choice sub.
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Exactly, but when I saw a 20 man squad with 9 subs I just reverted to natural thinking. Then I saw 2 keepers, hence my earlier post.

Turns out it was all business as usual in pre-season.
 
Daveeeeeeeed said:
Or unless you stand with absolute losers and then it is easy for you to win, ie Celtic.

If you watched the pre-season and first ten games we looked like world beaters and very very attacking. He got it into our players very early on.

Defensively we were atrocious even in those first ten games and pre-season friendlies.

Frank is working on everything so it will take time, hence why I dont think this season will be exciting. It will take longer to implement his system, than it did with Anges. Nothing out of the ordinary said there, I dont think.
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Don't get the need to denigrate Ange. People like you make things harder for Frank. Interesting that you say he needs time. Time to do what exactly? Ange took 2 seasons to win a trophy and get us back in Champions league after the trauma of the previous season. Your post suggests that Frank should be able to do it in less as he has a better system. How many seasons are we giving him to implement his system?
 
afsoc4life said:
Don't get the need to denigrate Ange. People like you make things harder for Frank. Interesting that you say he needs time. Time to do what exactly? Ange took 2 seasons to win a trophy and get us back in Champions league after the trauma of the previous season. Your post suggests that Frank should be able to do it in less as he has a better system. How many seasons are we giving him to implement his system?
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Ffs can we stop double counting Ange's achievement? He "won us a trophy AND got us back into the CL". We finished 17th. We were absolutely atrocious last season. You get CL with the trophy. To win the trophy we beat Bodo Glimt, Frankfurt, and AZ Alkmar. Thats not denigrating anything. Its just reality.
 
afsoc4life said:
Don't get the need to denigrate Ange. People like you make things harder for Frank. Interesting that you say he needs time. Time to do what exactly? Ange took 2 seasons to win a trophy and get us back in Champions league after the trauma of the previous season. Your post suggests that Frank should be able to do it in less as he has a better system. How many seasons are we giving him to implement his system?
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The 17th place PL finish, and the various negative records smashed, seem to have conveniently slipped your memory.
 
Silly McSilly Face said:
Ffs can we stop double counting Ange's achievement? He "won us a trophy AND got us back into the CL". We finished 17th. We were absolutely atrocious last season. You get CL with the trophy. To win the trophy we beat Bodo Glimt, Frankfurt, and AZ Alkmar. Thats not denigrating anything. Its just reality.
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He got us back into Europe via league position and then the won that European competition the following season. Up there with the best two seasons under ENIC.

I’ve got us down for 7th or 8th under Frank this season, perhaps with no European qualification at all.
 
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