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2025/26 pre-season
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Muttley
Teemu Tainio
Turns out that BM had 14 subs on the bench and made 10 outfield subs. We had 9 which made me think the match day structure was like a normal match. It wasn't. So 2 keepers on the bench would have been standard for this friendly. We just had a reduced bench because of our injury list. It's possible that Solanke and Udogie were in Germany but they couldn't make the match day squad.
So Spurs got back from Seoul and the squad disseminated. Some U21s have been loaned since. 1st team then took a much smaller group to Germany and the U21s had the game against Enfield on the 5th Aug. I think the academy players you mention were probably wrapped up in that U21 game. We couldn't have called any up at short notice because it was a different country.
We didn't think we needed to. Probably better for the academy players to get a full 90 than be 9th choice sub.
Muttley
Teemu Tainio
Exactly, but when I saw a 20 man squad with 9 subs I just reverted to natural thinking. Then I saw 2 keepers, hence my earlier post.
Turns out it was all business as usual in pre-season.
Lemonade Money
Luka Modric
Are you talking to us, or yourself?
afsoc4life
Michael Carrick
Don't get the need to denigrate Ange. People like you make things harder for Frank. Interesting that you say he needs time. Time to do what exactly? Ange took 2 seasons to win a trophy and get us back in Champions league after the trauma of the previous season. Your post suggests that Frank should be able to do it in less as he has a better system. How many seasons are we giving him to implement his system?
Silly McSilly Face
Neil Sullivan
Ffs can we stop double counting Ange's achievement? He "won us a trophy AND got us back into the CL". We finished 17th. We were absolutely atrocious last season. You get CL with the trophy. To win the trophy we beat Bodo Glimt, Frankfurt, and AZ Alkmar. Thats not denigrating anything. Its just reality.
Mikey10
Chris Perry
The 17th place PL finish, and the various negative records smashed, seem to have conveniently slipped your memory.
Finney Is Back
Chris Jones
He got us back into Europe via league position and then the won that European competition the following season. Up there with the best two seasons under ENIC.
I’ve got us down for 7th or 8th under Frank this season, perhaps with no European qualification at all.
thfcsteff
Vivian Woodward
What do you think Frank's system is? You're suggesting he has one system. Could you detail it?
thfcsteff
Vivian Woodward
Speaking strictly factually, it's not 'double-counting' it's a fact.
We won a trophy and got back into the CL. You've also suggested that to win the trophy we beat three teams. Not factually true is it. We actually beat 9 teams and won 10 games overall out of 15 (losing 3 and drawing the other 2).
I know what your 'reality' is with regards to the trophy and our winning it, and believe me, I don't wish to derail you from that track if it's the one that you find easiest to run on.
But I still cannot believe the attempts to denigrate and depreciate us winning it, especially when passed off as 'reality' (which in this instance is absolutely contextual).
The facts say otherwise.
thfcsteff
Vivian Woodward
I think that's a very fair assumption at this moment. I'm sure you'd agree with me that Frank is being handed a series of 'flux-internal' issues and changes which despite the best efforts of VV have conspired to make his life difficult from the get-go. He has my enormous sympathy TBH. Because once again we have a manager suffering for recruitment issues years ago, for poor squad planning by the 'football committee', and some frankly bizarre shennanegans in the transfer market. I'm sure we've all had a line on what happened with MGW, and I'm further sure it wasn't any single thing, but what I cannot reconcile is how a club of our supposed nous has allowed ourselves to apparently -
a) make our MGW play so public without having it locked up, and b) how our MGW play appears to have been the main one and we are possibly making things up as we go now with a long list of 'targets' and a ticking clock which will spit out a player who is either cheap/a surprise bargain, or a hard over-value signing because we're in a corner. I don't like being a cynic, but it is exceptionally hard to ignore identifying a creature with a beak, feathers and flipper-feet who has been walking the High Road in typical fashion year after year. I mean, I suppose it COULD be an elephant in fancy dress? Now THAT'S optimism for you!
I find myself once again slapping my onw forehead and saying 'stupid boy' because let's face it, I really, really should know better by now. We are who we are (mate!!!!!)...