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Mathys Tel

afsoc4life said:
I am shocked this chap's page was on page 3. This guy has definitely gotten better. I hope he starts the next match.
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Has he, or is the alternative just that bad? At this point it's probably better to start him than Muani, but I'm not sure we've seen an "improvement" from him. 🤔
 
Bishop said:
Has he, or is the alternative just that bad? At this point it's probably better to start him than Muani, but I'm not sure we've seen an "improvement" from him. 🤔
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You are joking. If you compare him with when he first came. There is a difference.
 
Good game against Villa and hopefully his decision making shall improve, as a couple of wayward shots when he could’ve laid on easy chances for teammates (especially when Gallagher was on edge of 6 yard box) but thankfully that didn’t prove costly in the end.

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SteveAWOL said:
Good game against Villa and hopefully his decision making shall improve, as a couple of wayward shots when he could’ve laid on easy chances for teammates (especially when Gallagher was on edge of 6 yard box) but thankfully that didn’t prove costly in the end.

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Agreed that he had a good game.

Thought the assist was an example of what both excites and frustrates with him. Was a pretty obvious pass on, to Porro I think. He went for the cross instead and it paid off.

I really like that, he takes responsibility, tries to make things happen, believes in himself. Given that he's still young and a bit raw he'll make the wrong decision at times and he's not at the level where he consistently gets the execution right. I get that this will be frustrating to some, but if he can find the next levels in terms of execution and decision making there's a quality player in him. And as he's shown repeatedly now he has the technical capability of doing that. Can he step up on terms of consistency only time will tell.
 
braineclipse said:
Agreed that he had a good game.

Thought the assist was an example of what both excites and frustrates with him. Was a pretty obvious pass on, to Porro I think. He went for the cross instead and it paid off.

I really like that, he takes responsibility, tries to make things happen, believes in himself. Given that he's still young and a bit raw he'll make the wrong decision at times and he's not at the level where he consistently gets the execution right. I get that this will be frustrating to some, but if he can find the next levels in terms of execution and decision making there's a quality player in him. And as he's shown repeatedly now he has the technical capability of doing that. Can he step up on terms of consistency only time will tell.
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A pity we don’t have a winger with the elite level experience of a Sonny or Perisic for Tel to learn the craft from; I was listening to Defoe on a podcast eulogising about how great it was that Ian Wright was still at West Ham when he was coming up through the ranks, as he spent countless hours on the training ground showing Jermain how to improve his forward play.
 
metalgear said:
much more improved and very hungry and ambitious to a fault
my guess is that rdz will help him improve much better than tf could
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Well that's likely considering Frank criminally underused him. He has the ability and the right mentality, and the things that he needs to improve on are exactly the things you would expect from a young player.

RDZ said he wanted him at Marseille, he will come along nicely under him as will most of our attacking talent like Simons/Kudus and Odobert I would expect....
 
harr1984 said:
Well that's likely considering Frank criminally underused him. He has the ability and the right mentality, and the things that he needs to improve on are exactly the things you would expect from a young player.

RDZ said he wanted him at Marseille, he will come along nicely under him as will most of our attacking talent like Simons/Kudus and Odobert I would expect....
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It's so weird someone saying our attacking talent. I almost started believing we had no attackers of any PL ability. I do think Tel,Kudus, Odobert, Richy and Xavi have been made to look the spacegoats this season.

Amazing what a positive manager can do. I'm guilty too... I didn't understand the point of Palinha in a negative midfield. But damn, in a midfield that tries to play football, he is a beautiful warrior that just gets more beastly as the game goes on.
 
parj said:
It's so weird someone saying our attacking talent. I almost started believing we had no attackers of any PL ability. I do think Tel,Kudus, Odobert, Richy and Xavi have been made to look the spacegoats this season.

Amazing what a positive manager can do. I'm guilty too... I didn't understand the point of Palinha in a negative midfield. But damn, in a midfield that tries to play football, he is a beautiful warrior that just gets more beastly as the game goes on.
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I think it’s so simple to think Pauli is too defensive. His contributions mean that he breaks up opponents attack and is often the reason for us to capitalise and start our own attack in positions both deep and further up the pitch. His passing is very underrated but it’s a easy miss as his defensive abilities overshadow most of the other good stuff he brings to the team.
 
Gazza said:
I think it’s so simple to think Pauli is too defensive. His contributions mean that he breaks up opponents attack and is often the reason for us to capitalise and start our own attack in positions both deep and further up the pitch. His passing is very underrated but it’s a easy miss as his defensive abilities overshadow most of the other good stuff he brings to the team.
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But it's incredible how footballers look so much better playing football. Tel is one I hope benefits
 
parj said:
It's so weird someone saying our attacking talent. I almost started believing we had no attackers of any PL ability. I do think Tel,Kudus, Odobert, Richy and Xavi have been made to look the spacegoats this season.

Amazing what a positive manager can do. I'm guilty too... I didn't understand the point of Palinha in a negative midfield. But damn, in a midfield that tries to play football, he is a beautiful warrior that just gets more beastly as the game goes on.
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They aren’t perfect
But they are better then what we have seen
 
parj said:
It's so weird someone saying our attacking talent. I almost started believing we had no attackers of any PL ability. I do think Tel,Kudus, Odobert, Richy and Xavi have been made to look the spacegoats this season.

Amazing what a positive manager can do. I'm guilty too... I didn't understand the point of Palinha in a negative midfield. But damn, in a midfield that tries to play football, he is a beautiful warrior that just gets more beastly as the game goes on.
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Let's not forget Madders and Kulu too ;) I think not just in attacking positions but all over the pitch we have a lot of young talent who in a year or two we are going to think 'Fudge me, our recruitment was actually pretty good'. Gray/Bergvall/Vuskovic/Tel/Odobert/Simons/Souza there is a lot of genuine talent there.

What we need is a good CF (easier said than done I know) and some star dust quality to complement these players. But we have some decent experienced players too, some need moving on but it is nowhere near the tragic state people made the squad out to be and more to do with not having a manager whose style complements the players we have....
 
Bedfordspurs said:
They aren’t perfect
But they are better then what we have seen
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I think that's a fair assessment. For me Tel is still underwhelming and we still need to add actual starting quality wide men. We only really have Kudus who fits in that category.

If we had a 27 year old Son and a Tel or Odobert getting select minutes and appropriate matches the whole thing would have worked out better.

As it is we have had to rely on players who aren't ready yet and might never arrive at the level we require. Quite a fudge up in terms of squad building.
 
For me he seems a very average player and if we had a fully fit squad I really don`t see him getting many chances in the starting line up. One minute he does something good like the cross for Richys goal but generally he seems pretty brainless in his play. Ok for the squad but never going to be a regular starter
 
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