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Igor the Interim

Not wanting to rain on people's parade but there is a long way to go. This season has been littered with false dawns - champions league wins, victories away to City and Everton. None of them really built us any momentum in the league. So let's wait and evaluate once we are safe because we are a long way from that yet.

I was very vocal about wanting Igor removed before last Sunday because given the extraordinary circumstances we found ourselves in, I felt we needed a manager who could arrest the slide quickly. Let's face it, in those first 4 games, we were really bad and he didn't look like that guy. Players like Xavi, Tel and Spence have been inconsistent this season. World beaters one minute, chumps the next. In the hustle and bustle of a relegation fight they may revert to type. We need to be patient with this squad.

I will say though Archie Gray is looking really good in his midfield role something which I think some credit should be given to TF whether or not you like him ( just like Brennan Johnson thrived under Ange). Hopefully him and Conor Gallagher (who will come good) will be rotating that position for years to come. We need to find away of keeping them injury free though.

It's great that we have improved, I am starting to warm to Igor. But we have been here before and I'm still nervous as hell about Sunday.
 
Robspur12 said:
Not wanting to rain on people's parade but there is a long way to go. This season has been littered with false dawns - champions league wins, victories away to City and Everton. None of them really built us any momentum in the league. So let's wait and evaluate once we are safe because we are a long way from that yet.

I was very vocal about wanting Igor removed before last Sunday because given the extraordinary circumstances we found ourselves in, I felt we needed a manager who could arrest the slide quickly. Let's face it, in those first 4 games, we were really bad and he didn't look like that guy. Players like Xavi, Tel and Spence have been inconsistent this season. World beaters one minute, chumps the next. In the hustle and bustle of a relegation fight they may revert to type. We need to be patient with this squad.

I will say though Archie Gray is looking really good in his midfield role something which I think some credit should be given to TF whether or not you like him ( just like Brennan Johnson thrived under Ange). Hopefully him and Conor Gallagher (who will come good) will be rotating that position for years to come. We need to find away of keeping them injury free though.

It's great that we have improved, I am starting to warm to Igor. But we have been here before and I'm still nervous as hell about Sunday.
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All fair, I would say they haven't been many 90 minute performances this season, the last 225 minutes have been an improvement.

Tudor seems to be improving the team (fitness, passing, pressing), I didn't see much improvement from Frank (can't credit Gray's improvement on him, he started first game with Gray & Bergvall and we won, then it took him something like 18 games to repeat) and I think we took so long to fire him, it made Tudor's job extremely hard.
 
Robspur12 said:
Not wanting to rain on people's parade but there is a long way to go. This season has been littered with false dawns - champions league wins, victories away to City and Everton. None of them really built us any momentum in the league. So let's wait and evaluate once we are safe because we are a long way from that yet.

I was very vocal about wanting Igor removed before last Sunday because given the extraordinary circumstances we found ourselves in, I felt we needed a manager who could arrest the slide quickly. Let's face it, in those first 4 games, we were really bad and he didn't look like that guy. Players like Xavi, Tel and Spence have been inconsistent this season. World beaters one minute, chumps the next. In the hustle and bustle of a relegation fight they may revert to type. We need to be patient with this squad.

I will say though Archie Gray is looking really good in his midfield role something which I think some credit should be given to TF whether or not you like him ( just like Brennan Johnson thrived under Ange). Hopefully him and Conor Gallagher (who will come good) will be rotating that position for years to come. We need to find away of keeping them injury free though.

It's great that we have improved, I am starting to warm to Igor. But we have been here before and I'm still nervous as hell about Sunday.
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Yeah i think people have got a bit ahead of themselves after midweek. Forest will pack the middle of the pitch, it won't be open like it was v AM - it's going to be a proper slog and not the type of fixture we've been doing well in at all.
 
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Silly McSilly Face said:
Think its revisionism to say that the Frank appointment "damn near relegated us".

We finished 17th the season before, on 38 points. We lost 22 games. The most any team has managed to lose and not be relegated.

Having played 30 games already this season we would need to lose all our remaining games to even equal last season's loss total.

We are in no worse position than last season. We have simply carried on. The difference is that this season the bottom 3 are far closer points wise to the rest of the league. We massively got away with one last year from a being in real danger situation. This year the relegation threatened teams aren't as bad.

So while the Frank appointment was a symptom of continued poor decision making and he didn't have what it took to improve us, it was Ange and an overall slide in standards that got us here in the first place. Frank is not the reason we are where we are. He was just a woefully inadequate solution to the already dug hole.
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We are WAY closer to relegation this season than last. I put the grand total of zero on Spurs being relegated last season. Whereas I have lumped on massively this season (and managed to lay lots off as the odds have come tumbling down as everyone else realised how brick we are)
 
Finney Is Back said:
We are WAY closer to relegation this season than last. I put the grand total of zero on Spurs being relegated last season. Whereas I have lumped on massively this season (and managed to lay lots off as the odds have come tumbling down as everyone else realised how brick we are)
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The three relegated teams last season were chronic. This season, even Wolves are now making a decent fist of being a PL team.

That’s the difference.
 
Mikey10 said:
The three relegated teams last season were chronic. This season, even Wolves are now making a decent fist of being a PL team.

That’s the difference.
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True
But what is also true is at this time last season we had 34 points and a goal difference of 11
But to come back to your point that would only have us one place higher than where we are today
 
Mikey10 said:
He shouldn't be considered imo. He's been brought in to do a certain job - being the permanent manager requires an entirely different skill set.

Hopefully we are able to say, "Thank you very much, job done" and everyone goes away happy.
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Yep.

He’s keeping the seat warm for Poch.
 
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