thfcsteff
Vivian Woodward
In fairness, I think they sort of 'over-lapped' with the Transatlantic slave trade, but I get your thrust!
As for the second bold-faced line there, I sense there is a lot in it.
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Racism in football
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In fairness, I think they sort of 'over-lapped' with the Transatlantic slave trade, but I get your thrust!
As for the second bold-faced line there, I sense there is a lot in it.
braineclipse
George Hunt
The mono culture argument is a fascinating one, but not as in being a good argument... I think it essentially functions as a Rorschach test.
If you're a ethno nationalist/racist or just uncomfortable about people with a different skin colour, culture or whatever that argument will resonate with you. I mean, of course monocultures are better, people who are different to me makes me feel bad. Then you can cherry pick examples from the vast data pool of cultures, countries and history to validate your own feelings.
Whereas if you're kinda cool with people if different cultures that argument does nothing for you. Other examples from the world come to mind.
Reactionary right wing snow flakes needing their feelings validated... Then getting exploited by grifters and bastards who fill that with half truths and lies masquerading as knowledge.
The only positive thing is that this has always been a reaction to positive social change. And we have a history of defeating that, at times at least.
braineclipse
George Hunt
As always a pleasure conversing with someone who sees the intent of what's being said. I just went for the low hanging fruit... Not my intention to agree with a falsehood.
kb 1984
Terry Yorath
His other racist mates down the pub or watching Robinson on YouTube
veryoldspur
Jamie Redknapp
I don't get offended by anything, I'm a real man
veryoldspur
Jamie Redknapp
They are just facts mate, look them up for your self. Are you telling me you have never heard of the Roman's? You will find everything explained if you watch the life of Brian
braineclipse
George Hunt
Ah yes. Hatred is a good and healthy thing, but the much smaller reaction of getting offended is somehow wrong for a real man.
I don't get offended, I just hate people I disagree with... Makes all kinds of no sense.
It's fine to feel offended. What you do with that is a different question.
I pointed out that white people also did slavery before the Barbary pirates. You disagree with that fact? I mean, either disagree or admit that you were wrong.
I've heard about the Romans that they had both white and non white emperors and seemed to care very little about skin colour. They did care a lot about if someone was "Roman" or not, but that had little to nothing to do with skin colour. More progressive on race than many are nowadays.
Anyway. My question was what sources you use?
Facts are facts, but how they're interpreted, understood and presented matters a great deal. Real men understand that.
Grays_1890
David Ginola
"she walked into the door frame ma'lord"
veryoldspur
Jamie Redknapp
I didn't know Owen Jones was a Spurs supporter
Grays_1890
David Ginola
you learn something every day ey Adolf
braineclipse
George Hunt
I take it that's meant as an insult and you have no interest in actually having a meaningful conversation about this?
I had to Google who Owen Jones is. Not really sure what the insult is here? Maybe you meant it as a compliment? If you wanted to be insulting could you please be a bit clearer?
SpiderSpurs
Luke Young
And there we have it, your trolling was good while it lasted.
LutonSpurs
Eric Dear
Lol. The only people who need to say this on an anon internet forum are rarely real anything lad.
veryoldspur
Jamie Redknapp
Seriously, I have never posted on a football forum where the members are woke lefties. In my experience this is very rare amongst supporters.
My point from the very start is that I oppose racism, but I believe it has been blown up out of all proportion, and we probably live in the least racist country in the world. I also made the point that racism is a two way street, but the wokies refuse to see it like that.
A close friend of mine is Anglo Indian, and he says all white people look the same, eat bland food, and smell of urine. I find that very funny, and like 99% of white people don't get offended by comments like that. However, turn the tables around and you become Mr Evil and will be put in prison for the rest of your life. We now live in a very strange society, and it's about time people stop being so sensitive.
The biggest problem we have at the moment is antisemitism. Every weekend we have left wing nutters and Asians marching up the street shouting disgusting antisemitic chants. These people are the same people who have decided to support terrorists instead of victims. It's people like this we should save our hate for, not the middle aged guy who fins Love Thy Neighbours funny
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braineclipse
George Hunt
You give the impression of someone who has never understood or really engaged with the actual arguments or opinions of people you disagree so strongly with.
You seem rather satisfied in your ignorance and lack of curiosity.
The "woke" aren't the threat you think they are because they for the most part don't hold the opinions you perceive in them.
Yes, racism as you define it is a two way street. Hey, I'm "woke". I can say that. It's fine. No worries. Now there are other ways to understand and define racism that are relevant. By other definitions it's not a two way street. But you probably wouldn't have any interest or curiosity in understanding that perspective so I won't expand.