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SpiderSpurs said:
Starmer looks to be really rattled by Farage.
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Not surprised, he really has no ideas or conviction at all. Constantly flip flops and goes whichever way the wind is blowing. Amazing he has such a big majority and there's so many things that need sorting out Labour should be relishing getting things done and transforming the country.
 
P.D. said:
Not surprised, he really has no ideas or conviction at all. Constantly flip flops and goes whichever way the wind is blowing. Amazing he has such a big majority and there's so many things that need sorting out Labour should be relishing getting things done and transforming the country.
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His popularity among the labour base has tanked, and rightly so. Those borrowed votes are gone too for good. I think some on here had hoped he would pivot away from some of the more divisive rhetoric when he got in office. And in some ways, he has, but mostly in the wrong direction. He is betraying core labour values at every turn now.
 
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Rorschach said:
His popularity among the labour base has tanked, and rightly so. Those borrowed votes are gone too for good. I think some on here had hoped he would pivot away from some of the more divisive rhetoric when he got in office. And in some ways, he has, but in the wrong direction. He is betraying core labour values at every turn now.
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There's still more than 4 years to go. I doubt he'll be the leader going into the next GE - he will have passed the office to either Streeting or someone more from the centre or centre-left of the party by then
 
Gutter Boy said:
There's still more than 4 years to go. I doubt he'll be the leader going into the next GE - he will have passed the office to either Streeting or someone more from the centre or centre-left of the party by then
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Yes, there is a long way to go but the signs are not good. Streeting is no better IMO.
 
Unfortunately Labour are working for the public sector and specifically against the interests of the aspirational working class outside of that.

Unfortunately there was no choice but to vote for Starmer for any sane person and that is no different today.

No point voting. I want a technocratic party with community values, but it’s too much to ask.

Governments are increasingly invading our lives- it used to be possible to ignore it all.
 
Unsure if this is the right thread, but reports in the Sunday Times today that the MoD are in advanced sensitive talks with the US to agree a deal to purchase a squadron of F35As (we currently only use the F35B which is the STOVL version) and an associated stockpile of B61 thermonuclear gravity bombs (which the F35A can deploy but the F35B can't). These are tactical battlefield nuclear warheads.

This has come out of the strategic defence review and would plug a gap in tactical nuclear strike capability.

Would represent a return to aircraft launched nuclear strike capability after a circa 30 year gap and the most significant uplift in any western country's nuclear weapons capability since the cold war.
 
Silly McSilly Face said:
Unsure if this is the right thread, but reports in the Sunday Times today that the MoD are in advanced sensitive talks with the US to agree a deal to purchase a squadron of F35As (we currently only use the F35B which is the STOVL version) and an associated stockpile of B61 thermonuclear gravity bombs (which the F35A can deploy but the F35B can't). These are tactical battlefield nuclear warheads.

This has come out of the strategic defence review and would plug a gap in tactical nuclear strike capability.

Would represent a return to aircraft launched nuclear strike capability after a circa 30 year gap and the most significant uplift in any western country's nuclear weapons capability since the cold war.
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A few billion pounds to rot in a field in Wiltshire for the next couple of millions of years.
 
Rorschach said:
His popularity among the labour base has tanked, and rightly so. Those borrowed votes are gone too for good. I think some on here had hoped he would pivot away from some of the more divisive rhetoric when he got in office. And in some ways, he has, but mostly in the wrong direction. He is betraying core labour values at every turn now.
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He just doesn't have any ideas or vision for what he wants the country to become, I'm not sure why he wanted to be PM actually. Even if I don't agree with someones beliefs I can respect them when there's a plan and vision to rally behind but I don't really see one. Trying to please too many people and avoiding big decisions with more reviews and quangos etc.

They have done some good things with planning for example and are hamstrung with a lack of finances but they could show so much more ambition.

I do think if they can't either reduce immigration (especially illegal) or make a positive case for it before the next election then they'll be voted out - rightly or wrongly it soaks up all the headlines and shows no signs of stopping.
 
P.D. said:
He just doesn't have any ideas or vision for what he wants the country to become, I'm not sure why he wanted to be PM actually. Even if I don't agree with someones beliefs I can respect them when there's a plan and vision to rally behind but I don't really see one. Trying to please too many people and avoiding big decisions with more reviews and quangos etc.

They have done some good things with planning for example and are hamstrung with a lack of finances but they could show so much more ambition.

I do think if they can't either reduce immigration (especially illegal) or make a positive case for it before the next election then they'll be voted out - rightly or wrongly it soaks up all the headlines and shows no signs of stopping.
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I said ages ago....Starmer is 100% someone you would want within your government (certainly in a minister role) but he's just not a leader.
 
P.D. said:
He just doesn't have any ideas or vision for what he wants the country to become, I'm not sure why he wanted to be PM actually. Even if I don't agree with someones beliefs I can respect them when there's a plan and vision to rally behind but I don't really see one. Trying to please too many people and avoiding big decisions with more reviews and quangos etc.

They have done some good things with planning for example and are hamstrung with a lack of finances but they could show so much more ambition.

I do think if they can't either reduce immigration (especially illegal) or make a positive case for it before the next election then they'll be voted out - rightly or wrongly it soaks up all the headlines and shows no signs of stopping.
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On a side note....'ambition' will usually struggle without cold hard cash. Especially if you want to go down the genuine and honest route also.
 
SpiderSpurs said:
Looking forward to seeing how much wasteful spending Reform find in Kent council.

www.bbc.co.uk

Kent County Council to be subject of Reform's first Reform to begin Musk-style audits of councils

Reform says a team lead by an as-yet unnamed tech entrepreneur will review council spending in Kent.
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Looking forward to the confidentialty breach claims, the GDPR breach claims and the industrial tribunals for staff they threaten to sack for not complying with their requests.
 
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