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Guglielmo Vicario

Vicario drives me crazy. He is a great shot stopper. Good with his feat. But until he can dominate crosses teams will target our weakness. I'm not sure he can change.

United put in so many crosses and one nearly paid off due to his badly timed jump. I don't blame solanke being there. A keeper can jump and use his arms and take it so much higher.

Kinsky is better at corners and crosses. Good with his feet. But I think he had a problem with shots close to his body. He has let too many in.

I'm not convinced by either of them. But I'm tending to feel kinsky can get better at his close body movement. Coming for crosses and being got at it is about timing and reading the game. I don't see it in VIC.
 
Raziel said:
So 100%, but the attitude by our fans, largely driven by the media is no other keeper has flaws, that there is some list of easy upgrades.

Raya, Ederson, Sanchez, even Martinez have multiple fudge ups in them, yet, you don't start every game with the first commentary being "keeper is shaky". One of the key games City lost on the back end of season, Ederson was just blocked off on a set piece, got no fudging where near the ball ... nothing, if that was Vic, would have been a fudging witch hunt. I can also remember multiple games against City where we (just Spurs) have caught Ederson off his line. And all of this started as justification for the fact he was fouled in that FA cup game two seasons ago that VAR refused to rule out the goal, so it was justified by "Vic was weak"

Even your interpretation of the VDV clearance to me is bit biased (but tell me as a keeper), I saw that as Vic came for the ball (as he should), he called it, and Solanke didn't get out of the way, Solanke needed to either get the ball himself or get out the way, what he did was actually back into the oncoming Vic, influencing the fumble. Brilliant reading of the play by VDV btw.
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Vicario is a great shot stopper but his overall "safety" as a keeper is poor. He doesn't promote a feeling of confidence and assuredness to the defence so yes his play does lead to some over compensation from the defenders.

I don't know if this is enough to try and replace him this coming season but he needs to demonstrate serious work in this area to be a viable option long term. We can't have a keeper fumbling such an easy situation in such a key match consistently. His brick stopping is not that amazing (while being great) to compensate.
 
I haven’t changed my views on him since the final, we need an upgrade IMO. He messes up straightforward situations, struggles to catch the ball, really basic stuff. I don’t think he’s panicky flapping does much to inspire confidence in the defence either.
 
Raziel said:
So 100%, but the attitude by our fans, largely driven by the media is no other keeper has flaws, that there is some list of easy upgrades.

Raya, Ederson, Sanchez, even Martinez have multiple fudge ups in them, yet, you don't start every game with the first commentary being "keeper is shaky". One of the key games City lost on the back end of season, Ederson was just blocked off on a set piece, got no fudging where near the ball ... nothing, if that was Vic, would have been a fudging witch hunt. I can also remember multiple games against City where we (just Spurs) have caught Ederson off his line. And all of this started as justification for the fact he was fouled in that FA cup game two seasons ago that VAR refused to rule out the goal, so it was justified by "Vic was weak"

Even your interpretation of the VDV clearance to me is bit biased (but tell me as a keeper), I saw that as Vic came for the ball (as he should), he called it, and Solanke didn't get out of the way, Solanke needed to either get the ball himself or get out the way, what he did was actually back into the oncoming Vic, influencing the fumble. Brilliant reading of the play by VDV btw.
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Wait so it’s Solanke’s fault Vicario messed up a routine catch and Vicario read the situation brilliantly?
 
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