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Glenda's Legs said:
Wow. I hadn't heard what Farage said, although I was just listening to Zia Yusef on the radio news. which was exactly what you'd expect from him.
There's barely been sight nor sound of Farage for the past month as he lies low to avoid questions about his donors, but at the first opportunity he pops up to stoke the flames.
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The whole "the father spoke with dignity but we need to act with rage" sounds all abit 1939
 
There should be rage, rage does not mean violence though.

It's how the rage is directed that matters.

Against the perpetrator of this terrible crime who will be punished by the laws of this country. Unfortunately no punishment can undo the harm.

Against the officers who for reasons only they will know failed to carry out their duty.

And lastly to the scumbags who are using this tragedy to drive a narrative of hate and division.

The most important thing now is that no other innocent suffers due to this, it should end here.
 
LutonSpurs said:
The murderer has got his sentence of 21 years. The police need to be held accountable too. They are both important.
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Of course Luton, the lad died without dignity but whose fault is that really.

There is a guy on Reddit saying he was at school with the murderer and this came as no surprise to him. An obsession with weapons and violence since a young age apparently.

He could have murdered anyone of us just for kicks. And he will murder again.
 
glasgowspur said:
There should be rage, rage does not mean violence though.

It's how the rage is directed that matters.

Against the perpetrator of this terrible crime who will be punished by the laws of this country. Unfortunately no punishment can undo the harm.

Against the officers who for reasons only they will know failed to carry out their duty.

And lastly to the scumbags who are using this tragedy to drive a narrative of hate and division.

The most important thing now is that no other innocent suffers due to this, it should end here.
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But not cultural rage, which is what Farage is asking for, the cnut
 
johnola said:
Of course Luton, the lad died without dignity but whose fault is that really.

There is a guy on Reddit saying he was at school with the murderer and this came as no surprise to him. An obsession with weapons and violence since a young age apparently.

He could have murdered anyone of us just for kicks. And he will murder again.
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Wtf has this got to do with me saying the Police should also be held accountable? So the evil bastard who stabbed him is a murderer and deserves all he gets. The cops who could have saved his life deserve to be held to account. Is that difficult to understand?
 
@johnola likes to try and have a go at me when ever an opportunity arises and then disappears when he realizes he makes no sense. I'm as upset as anyone for Henry. That video is haunting and disgusting. I'm furious at the prick with the knife. And at the cop who didn't believe him when he said couldn't breath. How you want to make this in to a debate with me has really rattled me. macaron.
 
LutonSpurs said:
Wtf has this got to do with me saying the Police should also be held accountable? So the evil bastard who stabbed him is a murderer and deserves all he gets. The cops who could have saved his life deserve to be held to account. Is that difficult to understand?
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I ‘m busy most of the time looking after my disabled mum. Sorry I can’t constantly expose myself to your mad views.
 
MartyFunkhouser said:
I know its been debated on here ALOT but in all honesty is there anything that Brexit has delivered on or improved. Certainly hasn't helped on immigration, the cost of doing business abroad is mental, trade costs are through the roof..........all in all its been one big cluster

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The passports look great though. Plenty of time to admire them in the queues.
 
MartyFunkhouser said:
Nailed it
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Never forget the fact the wider Sikh community are absolutely lovely, peaceful, generous and community driven...............
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The murder is directly and demonstrably downstream from the pernicious message that James O’Brien has been pushing for years which has infiltrated the police force and most areas of society.
 
robp135 said:
White = Opressor
Non White = Opressed
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I am not aware that O'Brien pushes such a message, nor that most of society follows such a thought process. You would have to give me examples of his pernicious messaging.

robp135 said:
The murder is directly and demonstrably downstream from the pernicious message that James O’Brien has been pushing for years which has infiltrated the police force and most areas of society.
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You are aware that the murder was not carried out by the police, it was carried out by Vickrum Digwa? There is nothing the police could have done to prevent Henry Nowak from dying although they would not have known that at the time and therefore should have taken more notice of what he was saying and more care of him. They were giving him CPR within 3 minutes of arriving at the scene as extended bodycam footage apparently shows although that has not been released. So the murder is nothing to do with any message that you believe has infiltrated the police.
The police acted appallingly and negligently towards Henry Nowak but they did not murder him.
 
Glenda's Legs said:
I am not aware that O'Brien pushes such a message, nor that most of society follows such a thought process. You would have to give me examples of his pernicious messaging.


You are aware that the murder was not carried out by the police, it was carried out by Vickrum Digwa? There is nothing the police could have done to prevent Henry Nowak from dying although they would not have known that at the time and therefore should have taken more notice of what he was saying and more care of him. They were giving him CPR within 3 minutes of arriving at the scene as extended bodycam footage apparently shows although that has not been released. So the murder is nothing to do with any message that you believe has infiltrated the police.
The police acted appallingly and negligently towards Henry Nowak but they did not murder him.
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This is the bloody example!

Left out the part where they put him in handcuffs after he had been stabbed because the murderer cried racism. A direct result of the obsession with anti racism training the police are forced to undergo.
 
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