Next seasons squad

[Gutter Boy]

Its because his stats are not very good on football manager.

The opposite actually. Its his stats that make people think he's any good. Then you watch him and the reality hits

 

[Yiddo]

Osimhen would immediately become one of the two best strikers in the league, but I am not sure we could pay his wages or that he would want to join a club that has finished 17th two seasons in a row.

He joined Gala so he will join anyone willing to pay the wages. If our club really are looking to change how we do business, they will pay the wages. £300k a week should do it.

 

[billyiddo]

So you want us to sign Lewandowski, a player who turns 38 on 21 August. Wow!

We have no European football and he can offer a lot on the training pitch to Lankshear I'd have thought

 

[Surfless]

17th

Like you want more of that.

your inability to understand what has happened the past two seasons is pretty unreal.

By January 19th this season, Spurs had recorded 19 separate injuries. We've had 73 in two seasons. The next closest is 61 (Man Utd).

But rather than recognize that and acknowledge we may have had a systemic problem, you choose to cast a player out based on his injury record, and then when challenged on that pivot to the league position being your justification.

Lets be very clear, we have not had good management - from the board, from Ange, Frank, or Tudor. Those three did not get on well with a depleted squad. De Zerbi, who is now the future for us, did work out pretty quickly how to play with a team shorn of its creativity, and that is the difference between the previous managers, (I love Ange, but he's got one way of playing) and RDZ.

We could line up with the exact same squad as we have had this season, with the youngsters a year wiser, and the injured players coming back into the squad, and finish 8-10th under De Zerbi. The reality that we are going to add first teamers means in a minute the likes of your mate Solanke will be battling for squad roles, but don't bet on one or two who we consider to be second string staking a claim and upping their game.

To suggest we should cast a player or players out based on their injury record, or the last two seasons of football at Spurs, rather than recognizing their actual ability, is more or less the daftest suggestion currently on this board.

 

[HarryBreadbap]

your inability to understand what has happened the past two seasons is pretty unreal.

By January 19th this season, Spurs had recorded 19 separate injuries. We've had 73 in two seasons. The next closest is 61 (Man Utd).

But rather than recognize that and acknowledge we may have had a systemic problem, you choose to cast a player out based on his injury record, and then when challenged on that pivot to the league position being your justification.

Lets be very clear, we have not had good management - from the board, from Ange, Frank, or Tudor. Those three did not get on well with a depleted squad. De Zerbi, who is now the future for us, did work out pretty quickly how to play with a team shorn of its creativity, and that is the difference between the previous managers, (I love Ange, but he's got one way of playing) and RDZ.

We could line up with the exact same squad as we have had this season, with the youngsters a year wiser, and the injured players coming back into the squad, and finish 8-10th under De Zerbi. The reality that we are going to add first teamers means in a minute the likes of your mate Solanke will be battling for squad roles, but don't bet on one or two who we consider to be second string staking a claim and upping their game.

To suggest we should cast a player or players out based on their injury record, or the last two seasons of football at Spurs, rather than recognizing their actual ability, is more or less the daftest suggestion currently on this board.

'your inability to understand what has happened the past two seasons is pretty unreal'

Then why reply?

 

[NaijaSpurs]

We have no European football and he can offer a lot on the training pitch to Lankshear I'd have thought

I do not care what he offers on the training pitch, we do not need to sign a 38 year old striker.

 

[NaijaSpurs]

He joined Gala so he will join anyone willing to pay the wages. If our club really are looking to change how we do business, they will pay the wages. £300k a week should do it.

I guess £300k a week is around £150 net. And therein lies the rub, because he is currently on £245 net at his current club. He is a hero after leading them to the title again. Also, he gets to play CL football again.

 

[Finney Is Back]

And that would still be down 60M net from last summer.

If we aren't above 200M in net spend this summer, the "new" owners have completely played us, and it's basically confirmed asset stripping before the sale.

Again…. We don’t need to spend ‘more’. We need to spend ‘better’. I know you love him mate, but try not to let the terrible stewardship of Levy these past 8 years or so fool you into thinking the amount we spend on transfers has been the problem.

 

[Lost Mango]

Richi 15 goals in 32 games this season would be upgraded by Woltemande 12 goals in 34 games? Ambitious upgrade.

 

[billyiddo]

I do not care what he offers on the training pitch, we do not need to sign a 38 year old striker.

Ok?

 

[Lost Mango]

Again…. We don’t need to spend ‘more’. We need to spend ‘better’. I know you love him mate, but try not to let the terrible stewardship of Levy these past 8 years or so fool you into thinking the amount we spend on transfers has been the problem.

Think we need to spend more (especially on wages) and spend better, The two things are certainly not mutually exclusive.

 

[MartyFunkhouser]

Think we need to spend more (especially on wages) and spend better, The two things are certainly not mutually exclusive.

Yep and once we have cleared the decks that money needs reinvesting in better. I dont expect us to go and spend obscene levels, I expect us to improve the quality

 

[Raziel]

Again…. We don’t need to spend ‘more’. We need to spend ‘better’. I know you love him mate, but try not to let the terrible stewardship of Levy these past 8 years or so fool you into thinking the amount we spend on transfers has been the problem.

What justification would there be to spend less? (forget the Levy conversation as it taints everyone's perspective). Surely you (and the others) haven't suddenly decided our squad is good enough? Owners need to save money (is that ok now?)

Even if you take view of Robertson & Senesi being effectively free, we swap Romero for Savinho, so you start at net zero
- We need a top level GK, Deep lying CM, replacement for Palhihna/Bissouma, CF (maybe 2), #10 (can't rely only on Maddison), maybe RW

That's 6 incoming players that will average 60M+ a player (GK slightly less, CF's a lot more), even if you make some deals, say one experience player (cheaper but higher wages), maybe one covered by sales, there is no math where a real "reset" (CEO and owners verbiage, not mine) works out cheaper.

Now, would we need to do that every window? maybe not, but probably as our competition spends like that. But there cannot be a doubt that a team that finished 17th two seasons in a row, with glaring weaknesses up top, needs spend and spend now.

 

[Gazza]

Too Old?

A bit leaky

 

[Bedfordspurs]

Richi 15 goals in 32 games this season would be upgraded by Woltemande 12 goals in 34 games? Ambitious upgrade.

Richy is an effective scorer in a certain type of foorball
It’s not possession football because he isn’t good at keeping or passing the ball
But… one touch finishing on the end of crosses or passes he is very solid to great
Kinda how Everton or Brentford play for example and maybe even Arsenal to an extreme with Gyokeres
I don’t think that’s is how RDZ wants us playing next season and a player like Woltemade is more suited to a more technical game

 

[MartyFunkhouser]

I refer you back to my previous post…, if you want to judge a player on a single injury ravaged season that’s clearly an anomaly in the players career then that’s your prerogative but I’d suggest its not a smart way to think.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

What justification would there be to spend less? (forget the Levy conversation as it taints everyone's perspective). Surely you (and the others) haven't suddenly decided our squad is good enough? Owners need to save money (is that ok now?)

Even if you take view of Robertson & Senesi being effectively free, we swap Romero for Savinho, so you start at net zero
- We need a top level GK, Deep lying CM, replacement for Palhihna/Bissouma, CF (maybe 2), #10 (can't rely only on Maddison), maybe RW

That's 6 incoming players that will average 60M+ a player (GK slightly less, CF's a lot more), even if you make some deals, say one experience player (cheaper but higher wages), maybe one covered by sales, there is no math where a real "reset" (CEO and owners verbiage, not mine) works out cheaper.

Now, would we need to do that every window? maybe not, but probably as our competition spends like that. But there cannot be a doubt that a team that finished 17th two seasons in a row, with glaring weaknesses up top, needs spend and spend now.

Surely it’s as simple as spend what is needed to improve the squad in a manner that suits the manager and the strategy of the club (don’t know if we have one)

If that’s 3 players or 6…. £250m or £25m … the number doesn’t matter

Just the right players

 

[Lost Mango]

Richy is an effective scorer in a certain type of foorball
It’s not possession football because he isn’t good at keeping or passing the ball
But… one touch finishing on the end of crosses or passes he is very solid to great
Kinda how Everton or Brentford play for example and maybe even Arsenal to an extreme with Gyokeres
I don’t think that’s is how RDZ wants us playing next season and a player like Woltemade is more suited to a more technical game

Not denying he is better player than Richi. That is obvious. But for the money Saudi Sportswashing Machine will want after selling Gordon then I think he isn't THAT much a better player.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

Not denying he is better player than Richi. That is obvious. But for the money Saudi Sportswashing Machine will want after selling Gordon then I think he isn't THAT much a better player.

I think he is very much like Berbatov and playing in a possession side we would see a better player
Saudi Sportswashing Machine are an ugly side with the ball
My ideal scenario would be him and Krupi and we promote Lankshear to a genuine senior player
That would be real variety but real outlay too

 

[MartyFunkhouser]

Not denying he is better player than Richi. That is obvious. But for the money Saudi Sportswashing Machine will want after selling Gordon then I think he isn't THAT much a better player.

I dont rate him at all, not for the money paid. Looks clumsy to me