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Not just for kicks. I've seen someone get up and start swinging after 3 taser shots. The taser isn't sufficient to "incapacitate" in a lot of cases, it often only buys time and its main purpose is inducing a compliance in the target via pain. Once someone is still non complant after a taser shot you know you are dealing with an unusually dangerous person - they are armed with a knife the kicks are required as you need to stay on your feet to put yourself in a bent or low down vulnerable posture close in to an armed man refusing commands is dangerous to you and others. You need to induce the suspect to disarm themselves and comply
This is exactly right. When a person is tasered it is only a very temporary incapacitation (and in some cases no incapacitation at all).

In this instance the officers had to use appropriate force to attempt to get the suspect to release the weapon they had just been attempting to murder people with, I thought they were remarkably constrained. Once the suspect had relinquished the weapon, the kicks stopped immediately. I thought the two policemen did a brilliant job (for crap pay and, it seems, little in the way of recognition from some of the British public).
 
He said it is not the time for the convo now. Same as @ricky2tricky4city said earlier. Doesn't mean it's not a conversation. It is. People are allowed to question all aspects of public service. It's what we do in a free soicety.
Of course. What he should have done is privately contact the Met and say "is this in line with training seems a bit OTT to me". Gets the answer. If they say "yeah in line and this is why" matter ends. If they go "nah, out of control" then he can say i am going to make a public statement with the backing of the police after it has died down a bit
 
The same nutjob who had previous for trying to stab a police man and a dog once before

It's quite simple really, if you don't want to get kicked in the head don't try and stab people
A person who should have been in a psychiatric facility. If things like that hadn't been completely defunded over the past 15 years of course
 
Different people have different reactions to being tasered. I have a pal who is in the police and have heard many stories from him over the years.

The effectiveness of the taser depends on many things, for instance if the subject is obese or if the spread between the probes is quite small then the taser can cause only localised pain as opposed to full temporary paralysis. Also if the probes do not properly penetrate the skin then the electrical circuit doesn't complete and there is little effect. Also when somebody has high adrenaline levels it can lessen the impact of the taser. Same goes for people who are severely intoxicated.

Something worth noting is that the initial incapacitation from being tasered only lasts around 5 seconds, that is why the police move in so quickly to cuff somebody after tasering them.

In this instance there was a scumbag who had just attempted to murder two innocent people in the street and then failed to heed the police warnings to stop, continuing to come at them. That scumbag then refused to drop the weapon they were holding several seconds after being tasered despite clearly being told to many times. The person was clearly resisting dropping the weapon that they had already used to attempt to murder two people. In my book the police were absolutely right to use whatever force necessary to get the suspect to drop the knife, especially as they had both discharged their tasers so were then far more vulnerable to the suspect as he recovered further from the initial tasering.

It maybe different with a taser, but when you are electrocuted your muscles contract and you can't let go.
 
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