Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

[Silly McSilly Face]

Had that person he hit with a baton been tasered.

Having not been tasered before I don't have the knowledge of how incapacitated you are once shot?
You've probably been 'Taserman' at some point in your life so perhaps you can educate us.
Interestingly the man in the green, who appeared to have no defensive weapons, was happy to jump on the attacker with the singular aim to isolate his arm to remove the knife from his hand.

Taser impact depends on all manner of things. How the barbs penetrate, where they penetrate, how the discharge goes off, the physique and genetics of the person involved, whether they are under the influence. Taser is a tool but you cannot assume someone has been incapacitated if they have been tasered. Person grabbing arm is a member of the public (he has been interviewed in the press). But training dictates you don't put yourself in danger and should remain out of striking distance of a blade where possible.

 

[johnola]

Here we have it again blaming the authorities not the fudging murdering lunatic.

 

[LutonSpurs]

Agree with Ricky. Time and place. Dude got beats. He deserved beats. That's not how police are expected to behave. Are they allowed to break the rules? No. End of.

 

[LutonSpurs]

Taser impact depends on all manner of things. How the barbs penetrate, where they penetrate, how the discharge goes off, the physique and genetics of the person involved, whether they are under the influence. Taser is a tool but you cannot assume someone has been incapacitated if they have been tasered. Person grabbing arm is a member of the public (he has been interviewed in the press). But training dictates you don't put yourself in danger and should remain out of striking distance of a blade where possible.

Oooh he is also a taser expert.

 

[LutonSpurs]

Here we have it again blaming the authorities not the fudging murdering lunatic.

No. Nothing of the sort. There is consensus the psycho is bad. He is at fault. There is a debate about police beating someone up for the sake of it when they could have just arrested the incapacitated psycho.

 

[Glenda's Legs]

Here we have it again blaming the authorities not the fudging murdering lunatic.

Who has blamed the authorities?

 

[johnola]

I blame the staff here for all the stupid comments.

 

[Silly McSilly Face]

He'd been tasered. That was sufficient non-lethal violence. You don't then try adding a bit or potentially-lethal (or brain damaging) violence, just for kicks.

Not just for kicks. I've seen someone get up and start swinging after 3 taser shots. The taser isn't sufficient to "incapacitate" in a lot of cases, it often only buys time and its main purpose is inducing a compliance in the target via pain. Once someone is still non complant after a taser shot you know you are dealing with an unusually dangerous person - they are armed with a knife the kicks are required as you need to stay on your feet to put yourself in a bent or low down vulnerable posture close in to an armed man refusing commands is dangerous to you and others. You need to induce the suspect to disarm themselves and comply

 

[LutonSpurs]

So he has been charged with 3 counts of attempted murder. One was an earlier, Muslim, victim. Pretty sure it's why it is not seen as terrorism in the charges.

 

[LutonSpurs]

I blame the staff here for all the stupid comments.

You must be making the most intelligent points lol. Half of what you post in random is factually incorrect or you misunderstanding things. But yeah it's the "staff" being stupid.

 

[johnola]

You must be making the most intelligent points lol. Half of what you post in random is factually incorrect or you misunderstanding things. But yeah it's the "staff" being stupid.

and you are a genius lol.

Scara’s lickspittle.

 

[WillWeEverBeGoodAgain]

Zack Polanski has apologised for sharing a social media post condemning the actions of police officers who arrested the suspect in the Golders Green attack.

The Green Party leader had reposted a message on X accusing officers of "repeatedly and violently kicking a mentally ill man in the head when he was already incapacitated by Taser."

The decision to share the post had prompted criticism, including from Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Mark Rowley in a letter to the politician on Thursday.

In a statement on Friday, Polanski apologised for "sharing a tweet in haste," adding that he should not have commented on police actions via social media.
"Everyone in leadership has a responsibility for lowering the temperature at a time of such tension," he said.

"Police responses to emergency situations such as these do need later reflection in the right forums, but I accept that social media is not the appropriate channel for doing so," he added.

He added that he had invited Sir Mark to "meet with me to discuss the police response and the wider issues raised in his letter".

 

[Silly McSilly Face]

Zack Polanski has apologised for sharing a social media post condemning the actions of police officers who arrested the suspect in the Golders Green attack.

The Green Party leader had reposted a message on X accusing officers of "repeatedly and violently kicking a mentally ill man in the head when he was already incapacitated by Taser."

The decision to share the post had prompted criticism, including from Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Mark Rowley in a letter to the politician on Thursday.

In a statement on Friday, Polanski apologised for "sharing a tweet in haste," adding that he should not have commented on police actions via social media.
"Everyone in leadership has a responsibility for lowering the temperature at a time of such tension," he said.

"Police responses to emergency situations such as these do need later reflection in the right forums, but I accept that social media is not the appropriate channel for doing so," he added.

He added that he had invited Sir Mark to "meet with me to discuss the police response and the wider issues raised in his letter".

Good on him. The right thing to say.

 

[LutonSpurs]

and you are a genius lol.

Scara’s lickspittle.

@scaramanga you should me effin chuffed at this delusional clowns belief.

I'd suggest, I'm the last person on this forum who could be called his lickspittle. Also dude this is another stupid comment. Keep it up.

 

[Gutter Boy]

Not just for kicks. I've seen someone get up and start swinging after 3 taser shots. The taser isn't sufficient to "incapacitate" in a lot of cases, it often only buys time and its main purpose is inducing a compliance in the target via pain. Once someone is still non complant after a taser shot you know you are dealing with an unusually dangerous person - they are armed with a knife the kicks are required as you need to stay on your feet to put yourself in a bent or low down vulnerable posture close in to an armed man refusing commands is dangerous to you and others. You need to induce the suspect to disarm themselves and comply

Or they might already be dead. Like the police brutality with a taser that killed Dalian Atkinson

 

[LutonSpurs]

Good on him. The right thing to say.

He said it is not the time for the convo now. Same as @ricky2tricky4city said earlier. Doesn't mean it's not a conversation. It is. People are allowed to question all aspects of public service. It's what we do in a free soicety.