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+++ OMT Tottenham Hotspur v Sunderland 12th April 2026 +++

I have supported Spurs for many years and seen some very bad teams. I was at WHL in 71 when Arsenal won the league title but the last couple of years has been excruciating. This could be the season where my worst nightmare actually comes true. For lots of reasons the team and supporters I hate the most is Chelsea. When I was a little kid my family was split between Spurs and Arsenal. My Dads side were Spurs but my Mums side were Arsenal. My Dad was more into cricket than football and my Mum wasn`t interested in football but her brothers(my uncles) were Arsenal supporters so I`ve never really had this rabid hatred for Arsenal that maybe I should have had.

For lots of reasons in the early years for me supporting Spurs games against Chelsea were horrible. This was in the days of very bad violence at games and the journey to and from the game could be a scary experience. I`m sure any Spurs supporters from those years of the early 70`s to mid 80`s will know what I am talking about.

So this year if the Chelsea game is the one that confirms we are down and Arsenal go on to win the title will for me be the worst season ever supporting Spurs. I will probably have to pull a sicky at work rather than face the brick I will have to take. I have seen us relegated before but it was nothing like the the consequences for the club will have now compared to all those years ago. The financial hit, the ability to attract top players, it will be a total nightmare.
Still until it is mathematically impossible to stay up COYS
 
Glenda's Legs said:
I have had far too much alcohol to consider that conundrum. I will come back to it tomorrow. Maybe.
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The thing we have to consider right now (and it occurred to me watching Emirates Marketing Project destroy Chelsea) is that if Arsenal win the league and we are relegated, the 4 points we somehow took off Emirates Marketing Project (that will likely represent at least 10% of our total points total for the season), will likely be the reason why.

I was watching them today after watching us at Sunderland and I'm thinking: how in GHod's green earth have we taken 4 points off these? Just fu*king HOW?
 
Silly McSilly Face said:
The thing we have to consider right now (and it occurred to me watching Emirates Marketing Project destroy Chelsea) is that if Arsenal win the league and we are relegated, the 4 points we somehow took off Emirates Marketing Project (that will likely represent at least 10% of our total points total for the season), will likely be the reason why.

I was watching them today after watching us at Sunderland and I'm thinking: how in GHod's green earth have we taken 4 points off these? Just fu*king HOW?
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Thanks. That’s cheered me right up. 😀
 
Silly McSilly Face said:
The thing we have to consider right now (and it occurred to me watching Emirates Marketing Project destroy Chelsea) is that if Arsenal win the league and we are relegated, the 4 points we somehow took off Emirates Marketing Project (that will likely represent at least 10% of our total points total for the season), will likely be the reason why.

I was watching them today after watching us at Sunderland and I'm thinking: how in GHod's green earth have we taken 4 points off these? Just fu*king HOW?
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No. I can’t even read that now.
Going to bed will re visit tomorrow.
 
Silly McSilly Face said:
The thing we have to consider right now (and it occurred to me watching Emirates Marketing Project destroy Chelsea) is that if Arsenal win the league and we are relegated, the 4 points we somehow took off Emirates Marketing Project (that will likely represent at least 10% of our total points total for the season), will likely be the reason why.

I was watching them today after watching us at Sunderland and I'm thinking: how in GHod's green earth have we taken 4 points off these? Just fu*king HOW?
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Whilst we’ve only taken 4 points off those Woolwich Wanderers in the past 11 games :oops:

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Finney Is Back said:
We had no patterns in attack at all. We slung in crosses to no one or launched long balls both in the hope of getting corners (which were pretty much our only way of scoring goals). It was some of the most abject attacking football I have seen from any Spurs team (and I’ve seen a lot of bad Spurs teams over the years).
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Agreed.

I don’t think Frank has any redeeming quality at all and looking back was an abomination of an appointment. It’s like it’s been some weird conspiracy by the club, the media, and everyone else that has glossed over just how bad he was and how bad the performances were.

Everything De Zerbi is saying now is about confidence. And I think Frank destroyed the confidence of the team by effectively saying last season didn’t matter.

I listened to Christian Purslow and Henry Winter on their podcast yesterday. Purslow knows Lange well, and made the case that RDZ is the first real full time appointment of this management team. For a few seconds I thought ‘yeah, fair enough’ but then I remembered no…this management team stuck with Frank 3 months too long. This is absolutely on them.
 
Ive been defeated since January tbh. We just dont have a good enough squad without our best 2 creative players out all season and no manager can get a tune out of whos available.
We have a shocking group of forewards.
I mean Solanke is an insult to the word "striker". Richy is a one game in 6
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player, and Kolo Muani .. well how the heck is that guy an International??
We have half decent youngsters yes. But we seriously overate Gray and Bergvall. Gray is giving me Harry Einks vibrs, and Bergvall is a few years off becoming a top player.
 
we looked better playing from the back, transitioning into attack and breaking opposition lines

a few players let us down tremendously:
- richarlison - should have scored from at least one of two clear chances. may be a nice guy but zero footballing IQ, zero strength, don't know how any spurs fans want him in their line up.
- porro - he is a bully with lightweight players but just sheer afraid of bigger ones. gets fooled too easily by a faked cross. we were so flimsy down that side. can he be counted on in attack? so many wasted set pieces and crosses...very low productivity
- solanke - probably playing to instructions by staying high, but could have dropped back at crucial times to make himself more available and to split the two CBs
- muani - plays like a 16 year old, just wants to hog the ball even though he can't get past the defender repeatedly
- romero - stuck in a 1990's football rules time loop

i believe that de zerbi doesn.t know the players as well as he claims and hope he is able to make the necessary changes.

on the plus side - i thought grey, gallagher did well. was the lack of options and ability of the folks in front of them to hold the ball that affected their play.

vdv, udogie OK but can't play with richarlison up top who keeps losing the ball and is unable to help track players in defence

Kinski man of the match for me. His passing out the back was tremendous. Unfortunate for the goal and injury.

We did and are improving, its a good sign
 
I tell you what makes me laugh...the usual suspects are getting a slagging in these parts, yet Connor Gallagher is (by comparison) getting away with one. He was so poor today, offered absolutely nothing on either side of the ball, and was moving as if in molasses to get onto the scene when Sunderland scored. What a total waste of money he has been, another pearler of an example of the disastrous January thw Tweedle Twins 'presided' over.
He cannot start next week. Right?
 
Robspur12 said:
It's slightly worrying though what RDZ thought he saw in training from Muani, that watching any video of his performances this season would have screamed "he is not a starter!" If it's just that RDZ wants to play 4231 and RKM is his main option on the right, that is even more worrying.
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He quite fairly probably believes he didn't have a better option for the right hand side. Look at the squad, who do we have that is capable on the right? There lack of options means you have to start getting very speculative and thinking of maybe playing Porro or Spence there. Neither are actually attackers and have their issues in an offensive sense.

There is a reason across 3 managers Muani keeps on getting played out in the right and it's because the coaches are blind, it's because despite what you see in match day he's still the best option we have available. Yes, that is how bad we are.
 
Bishop said:
He quite fairly probably believes he didn't have a better option for the right hand side. Look at the squad, who do we have that is capable on the right? There lack of options means you have to start getting very speculative and thinking of maybe playing Porro or Spence there. Neither are actually attackers and have their issues in an offensive sense.

There is a reason across 3 managers Muani keeps on getting played out in the right and it's because the coaches are blind, it's because despite what you see in match day he's still the best option we have available. Yes, that is how bad we are.
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The right isn't even his favoured position either!
 
Bishop said:
He quite fairly probably believes he didn't have a better option for the right hand side. Look at the squad, who do we have that is capable on the right? There lack of options means you have to start getting very speculative and thinking of maybe playing Porro or Spence there. Neither are actually attackers and have their issues in an offensive sense.

There is a reason across 3 managers Muani keeps on getting played out in the right and it's because the coaches are blind, it's because despite what you see in match day he's still the best option we have available. Yes, that is how bad we are.
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The national team often play Simons off the right.
 
It's not knee-jerk or disappointment but unless something extraordinary happens against Brighton, I think it's over for us. I used to believe that it would only take one lucky win to give us a fighting chance but if you look at the cold, hard facts, we were never going to win this match. Sure, we didn't commit suicide like we used to, but that was supposed to be our best defensive line-up.

On the other side of the pitch, we created next to nothing. First, it was because Frank didn't believe in the players. Then Tudor's system was too complicated. What about now?

Sure, we were unlucky to go down to a freak goal, but we've reached a point were draws are no longer enough for us. Years of mismanagement are finally catching up with us.
 
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