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I still find it crazy that no major Western country (apart from Spain) has come out with any statement against the war yet even whilst the world economy teeters on the brink. I mean Starmer must be fuming watching borrowing rates and inflation increasing, jobs likely being lost. We're down to war crimes being threatened on social media now. It's incredible really that it's come to this with no one saying anything.
 
I still find it crazy that no major Western country (apart from Spain) has come out with any statement against the war yet even whilst the world economy teeters on the brink. I mean Starmer must be fuming watching borrowing rates and inflation increasing, jobs likely being lost. We're down to war crimes being threatened on social media now. It's incredible really that it's come to this with no one saying anything.
Its a difficult situation as each country wants to uphold the notion of the 'american relationship ' . (With the added pressure of holding together NATO, no matter how losely)

The juxtaposition is Trump is the 'american relationship' at the moment and I think they think (and wish) that everything would just return to normal if he fudged off. The madness/off the chain potential behaviour from trump, is undoubtedly a weapon for him, and an issue for other leaders.
 
Its a difficult situation as each country wants to uphold the notion of the 'american relationship ' . (With the added pressure of holding together NATO, no matter how losely)

The juxtaposition is Trump is the 'american relationship' at the moment and I think they think (and wish) that everything would just return to normal if he fudged off. The madness/off the chain potential behaviour from trump, is undoubtedly a weapon for him, and an issue for other leaders.

Thank GHod he seems to be backing down under the whole "they want peace, they called me" and at this point I will take it anyway it comes
 
Assuming Trump or the Gulf States have been taken by surprise by the tactical response from Iran. How stupid are these diks?

The Gulf States not kicking off is also a surprise. Saudi have a pact with Pakistan, who have to come to their aid if they wanted to hit Iran back. But it seems they are letting Israel fudge everyone rather than become the focus of their rooster up.
 
Thank GHod he seems to be backing down under the whole "they want peace, they called me" and at this point I will take it anyway it comes

Who’d have thought that a draft-dodger would be so chicken brick about a full blown confrontation!

And what a time to be alive that Iranian state propaganda is perhaps more trustworthy than the President of the USA 🤪

 
Who’d have thought that a draft-dodger would be so chicken brick about a full blown confrontation!

And what a time to be alive that Iranian state propaganda is perhaps more trustworthy than the President of the USA 🤪


The Iranian cartoon of Dads Army-Esq mockery of Trump was hilarious
 
Assuming Trump or the Gulf States have been taken by surprise by the tactical response from Iran. How stupid are these diks?

The Gulf States not kicking off is also a surprise. Saudi have a pact with Pakistan, who have to come to their aid if they wanted to hit Iran back. But it seems they are letting Israel fudge everyone rather than become the focus of their rooster up.
It's alarming the apparent lack of pre war scenario play out.

Trump has been played by Netanyahu.
They were finalising a deal with Iran that was better than Obama had. Yet the very next day Trump got sucked in by Netanyahu, (who obviously doesn't want a deal) on some 'now or never' intel gonads.

It's perfect for Israel...they can hammer away all over the place with the US by their side or at least as back-up. For Trump it's a miscalculation (not that he ever calculates anything), he's now in a tough spot. His objectives are not Israels, they will carry on forever and a day by choice.
What was Trumps?, dingdong swinging powerful guy gonads, ramping his flagging approval rating? The opposite will happen when the most powerful mood mover rears it's head again. Money. If SMEs and kitchen table finances feel anything from the pinch to hopeless, people get the hump.
And it's really hard to blame anyone else but Trump.
 
Who’d have thought that a draft-dodger would be so chicken brick about a full blown confrontation!

And what a time to be alive that Iranian state propaganda is perhaps more trustworthy than the President of the USA 🤪

I have to agree I don't think there has been any 'talks'

Trump wanting to spike the markets is more likely. Either to stop the slide (or of course, another little day he and his buddies can rake some cash on a big fluctuation)

I also don't believe Iran fired missiles at the Chagos. (It makes no sense, 4000km) A Trump tactic to get us onboard imo.
 
I have to agree I don't think there has been any 'talks'

Trump wanting to spike the markets is more likely. Either to stop the slide (or of course, another little day he and his buddies can rake some cash on a big fluctuation)

I also don't believe Iran fired missiles at the Chagos. (It makes no sense, 4000km) A Trump tactic to get us onboard imo.

I think they will have no choice to get round a table to end this though, Trump is rattled badly, everyone is now worried about fuel and supply chain, not sure after Covid a global recession is anything anyone wants and thats what Iran will deliver before any bomb.
 
I think they will have no choice to get round a table to end this though, Trump is rattled badly, everyone is now worried about fuel and supply chain, not sure after Covid a global recession is anything anyone wants and thats what Iran will deliver before any bomb.
Iran are loving it because this has also a massive chance of driving a wedge between the US and Israel. The last thing Netanyahu wants is to talk this thru.
Trump has got to deal with him as well as the Iranians.
 
Its a difficult situation as each country wants to uphold the notion of the 'american relationship ' . (With the added pressure of holding together NATO, no matter how losely)

The juxtaposition is Trump is the 'american relationship' at the moment and I think they think (and wish) that everything would just return to normal if he fudged off. The madness/off the chain potential behaviour from trump, is undoubtedly a weapon for him, and an issue for other leaders.

But the damage caused is far greater than the damage that could be caused by some tariffs (which are now illegal anyway), borrowing costs, inflation, fuel increasing etc have a much greater impact on the UK than having a great relationship with Trump. I'm sure the ties underneath to actual espionage and sensitive data go a lot deeper than whoever the current president is anyway. He's likely a sitting duck after the mid terms anyway, probably loses the senate and the house.
 
I have to agree I don't think there has been any 'talks'

Trump wanting to spike the markets is more likely. Either to stop the slide (or of course, another little day he and his buddies can rake some cash on a big fluctuation)

I also don't believe Iran fired missiles at the Chagos. (It makes no sense, 4000km) A Trump tactic to get us onboard imo.

Good to see that his shameless insider trading is getting called out, although whether that’ll sway any of the MAGA cult at the mid-terms (should he fail to cancel them anyway) is another matter.


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If this isn't market manipulation then nothing is.

The US won't walk away without some sort of symbolic victory that the orange prik can boast about. It just won't happen.
 
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