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Artificial intelligence

MartyFunkhouser said:
Because IMO, we have created a world where we are rewarding the numbers game and social media has adapted and positioned itself to contribute to that.

In the old days marketing used to be a call to action, you were rewarded as an ambassador of a brand because your message reached people and that was quantifiable. Now its a pure numbers game, brands are paying idiots who use their platforms to terrorise people because the engagement is incredible numbers. Thats before the platforms give money for it regardless of the content.

If you look at it in football terms, thats why 99.9% of content now is not old players giving opinions or analysis of games, its because they know if they get Rory Jennings on a Sky programme to say that he thinks Frank Sinclair is the best PL CB of all time then their engagement with idiots will spike through the roof.

Add to it this whole idea that wanting accuracy is against free speech, its become a race to the bottom all this stuff, it all goes hand in hand
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This is a scarily accurate assessment.
 
I think there needs to be more education on what LLMs are and machine learning. What we have right now isn't massively groundbreaking tech. You could almost say it is a Ask Jeeves on steroids.

AI at what it's real meaning is, isn't here yet. Not in my view. Super intelligent beings are us. And only us for now.
 
LutonSpurs said:
I think there needs to be more education on what LLMs are and machine learning. What we have right now isn't massively groundbreaking tech. You could almost say it is a Ask Jeeves on steroids.

AI at what it's real meaning is, isn't here yet. Not in my view. Super intelligent beings are us. And only us for now.
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I had a little thought about this the other day.......

AI is 'intelligent' as it can read, learn, absorb, and importantly, remember:), tons and tons of brick that humans have created over the last 500 years or so.

So reality is it's in the 'rich seam of the mine' phase...struck gold when it comes to info input. Feed me feed me feed me.

For example....it can absorb the whole of the British library if it wants to.

BUT surely this plateau's? The amount we can give it to learn tapers off? Right?

It has undoubtedly become better at deciphering, organising, presenting and communicating information. But unless it becomes intelligent enough to recreate new insightful, important, and fresh information from the bits we have given it, it still relies on us for fresh input. The problem with that, is humans are relying on AI to do so much for them (as it can currently do a bloody good job of it) but by definition it is a rehashing of already existing data. Just a repeating loop and adding nothing new.
 
ricky2tricky4city said:
I had a little thought about this the other day.......

AI is 'intelligent' as it can read, learn, absorb, and importantly, remember:), tons and tons of brick that humans have created over the last 500 years or so.

So reality is it's in the 'rich seam of the mine' phase...struck gold when it comes to info input. Feed me feed me feed me.

For example....it can absorb the whole of the British library if it wants to.

BUT surely this plateau's? The amount we can give it to learn tapers off? Right?

It has undoubtedly become better at deciphering, organising, presenting and communicating information. But unless it becomes intelligent enough to recreate new insightful, important, and fresh information from the bits we have given it, it still relies on us for fresh input. The problem with that, is humans are relying on AI to do so much for them (as it can currently do a bloody good job of it) but by definition it is a rehashing of already existing data. Just a repeating loop and adding nothing new.
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I wholeheartedly agree. It's based on our inputs in to the internet. It creates nothing in reality.

The day it does then we have AGI or Singularity. And that would be sentience right?
 
ricky2tricky4city said:
by definition it is a rehashing of already existing data. Just a repeating loop and adding nothing new.
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Incorrect.

AI writes songs and poems and books and screenplays.
Yes, it has learned from previous authors and tweaks, just like most human authors.

AI is calculating and finding mathematical and scientific breakthroughs for us.
 
Bullet said:
Incorrect.

AI writes songs and poems and books and screenplays.
Yes, it has learned from previous authors and tweaks, just like most human authors.

AI is calculating and finding mathematical and scientific breakthroughs for us.
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It doesn't feel music so it doesn't create music. It uses information if sees as data to answer a query. My view. But either view is probably debatable.
 
LutonSpurs said:
It doesn't feel music so it doesn't create music. It uses information if sees as data to answer a query. My view. But either view is probably debatable.
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We all use data. Music is vibrations in the air that our eardrums convert into electrical signals sent to our brain. We like it or we don't. No different from an ai.
 
Bullet said:
Incorrect.

AI writes songs and poems and books and screenplays.
Yes, it has learned from previous authors and tweaks, just like most human authors.

AI is calculating and finding mathematical and scientific breakthroughs for us.
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I would see it more like plagiarism rather than the writing. It is just a fancy copy-and-paste machine.
 
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