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Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

LutonSpurs said:
It clearly doesn't attract the right people.
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The problem is the old conundrum - you should never give power to anyone who seeks it.

Its a bit different with MPs, but i would genuinely consider replacing the monarchy with a president selected by lottery (with certain qualifying criteria e.g. aged 60-65 at the start of a 10 year term, never been a member of a political party etc)
 
Gutter Boy said:
The problem is the old conundrum - you should never give power to anyone who seeks it.

Its a bit different with MPs, but i would genuinely consider replacing the monarchy with a president selected by lottery (with certain qualifying criteria e.g. aged 60-65 at the start of a 10 year term, never been a member of a political party etc)
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So Dorris from Rochdale just randomly wins the President lottery and is meeting with global leaders?
 
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"After careful reflection, I have decided to resign from the government.

"The decision to appoint Peter Mandelson was wrong. He has damaged our party, our country and trust in politics itself.

"When asked, I advised the Prime Minister to make that appointment and I take full responsibility for that advice. In public life responsibility must be owned when it matters most, not just when it is most convenient. In the circumstances, the only honourable course is to step aside.

"This has not been an easy decision. Much has been written and said about me over the years but my motivations have always been simple: I have worked every day to elect and support a government that puts the lives of ordinary people first and leads us to a better future for our great country. Only a Labour government will do that. I leave with pride in all we have achieved mixed with regret at the circumstances of my departure. But I have always believed there are moments when you must accept your responsibility and step aside for the bigger cause.

"As I leave I have two further reflections:

"Firstly, and most importantly, we must remember the women and girls whose lives were ruined by Jeffrey Epstein and whose voices went unheard for far too long.

"Secondly, while I did not oversee the due diligence and vetting process, I believe that process must now be fundamentally overhauled. This cannot simply be a gesture but a safeguard for the future.

"I remain fully supportive of the Prime Minister. He is working every day to rebuild trust, restore standards and serve the country. I will continue to back that mission in whatever way I can. It has been the honour of my life to serve."
 
MartyFunkhouser said:
"I take full responsibility"

Absolute fall guy here.
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It's why you need them. The 'evil councillors' narrative is as old as time, they are designed to be that shield. It just allows the emperor/king/PM a few catastrophes before they have to fall on their own sword.

It's in all good leadership theory too - how to survive crises:
1) Blame you predecessor
2) Restructure
3) Start packing
 
WillWeEverBeGoodAgain said:
"After careful reflection, I have decided to resign from the government.

"The decision to appoint Peter Mandelson was wrong. He has damaged our party, our country and trust in politics itself.

"When asked, I advised the Prime Minister to make that appointment and I take full responsibility for that advice. In public life responsibility must be owned when it matters most, not just when it is most convenient. In the circumstances, the only honourable course is to step aside.

"This has not been an easy decision. Much has been written and said about me over the years but my motivations have always been simple: I have worked every day to elect and support a government that puts the lives of ordinary people first and leads us to a better future for our great country. Only a Labour government will do that. I leave with pride in all we have achieved mixed with regret at the circumstances of my departure. But I have always believed there are moments when you must accept your responsibility and step aside for the bigger cause.

"As I leave I have two further reflections:

"Firstly, and most importantly, we must remember the women and girls whose lives were ruined by Jeffrey Epstein and whose voices went unheard for far too long.

"Secondly, while I did not oversee the due diligence and vetting process, I believe that process must now be fundamentally overhauled. This cannot simply be a gesture but a safeguard for the future.

"I remain fully supportive of the Prime Minister. He is working every day to rebuild trust, restore standards and serve the country. I will continue to back that mission in whatever way I can. It has been the honour of my life to serve."
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Eff off Morgan. We ain't reading that you nonce protector.

Lucky for you the roundabout painters do not care about your actions in this noncery. As not all children matter to them.
 
and so the sleeze and fraud stories begin

Morgan McSweeney, the Irish-born strategist behind Labour's election win, warned Starmer over a year ago about migration's electoral risks and the need to control borders.

His 73-year-old father Tim, a Cork accountant, set up a firm in 2023 that received around £6 million from Ireland's government for asylum accommodation amid a surge in arrivals.

Tim insists he gains no personal profit, and no UK contracts appear in government records—yet the story has reignited outrage tying it falsely to Labour's border policies
 
MartyFunkhouser said:
Yeh but don't you dare work from home haha
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Says the man who doesn’t even work in his own constituency!

Such rubbish hyperbole. You might be able to implement it into the civil service (though expect union challenges) but how do you stop private companies from deciding how to get the most out of their workforce? Plus of course a lot of companies gave up office space during covid (certainly in London) and rely on hybrid working. There’s not many companies that allow free-wheelers these days. Earn your keep or you are out. Or the company goes bust if not on top of things.
Just the usual Reform sound bite on which they will not be able to follow thorough (were they to get into government, which I remain sure they won’t).

I saw a comment to a tweet earlier basically saying it was applauded by the audience of mostly retirement-age attendees.
 
Glenda's Legs said:
Says the man who doesn’t even work in his own constituency!

Such rubbish hyperbole. You might be able to implement it into the civil service (though expect union challenges) but how do you stop private companies from deciding how to get the most out of their workforce? Plus of course a lot of companies gave up office space during covid (certainly in London) and rely on hybrid working. There’s not many companies that allow free-wheelers these days. Earn your keep or you are out. Or the company goes bust if not on top of things.
Just the usual Reform sound bite on which they will not be able to follow thorough (were they to get into government, which I remain sure they won’t).

I saw a comment to a tweet earlier basically saying it was applauded by the audience of mostly retirement-age attendees.
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You cant force companies to implement it and too many smart companies are using it to their advantage witb utilities and facilities savings whilst incentivising their staff with the money saved. There is a perfectly modern middle ground to this which seems to be ignored IMO. Like all politics its extreme views like "if you work from home you are not productive" its utter rubbish
 
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The issue with wfh is economic in the sense that there is an industry of zero houred hospitality workers who are now a burden on the treasury as there is less work or none for them.

The government's way to solve that is to try and force people back to work to make them spend on hospitality.

They could invest in up skilling these people or create new industry and job opportunities.

But.

Why would any of them do that.
 
WillWeEverBeGoodAgain said:
and so the sleeze and fraud stories begin

Morgan McSweeney, the Irish-born strategist behind Labour's election win, warned Starmer over a year ago about migration's electoral risks and the need to control borders.

His 73-year-old father Tim, a Cork accountant, set up a firm in 2023 that received around £6 million from Ireland's government for asylum accommodation amid a surge in arrivals.

Tim insists he gains no personal profit, and no UK contracts appear in government records—yet the story has reignited outrage tying it falsely to Labour's border policies
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A Cork accountant - is one that accepts bungs?
 
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