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Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

Grays_1890 said:
But this plays to the stupidity of society these days.

In any day I live, work, off work, with family, on holiday, the thought of mentioning bacon to a Muslim has never ever ever come up in my life. And I can say now, my life is no worse off for that.

So it begs the questions why is it even a thing and I tell you why, because people have tried to be purposely antagonistic in mentioning it to a Muslim and had their wrist slapped and why, because likely, like me there is no reason for it to come up in life so that persons go WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY out their way to spend some time to do it and why is that? To cause grievance on someone and their life.........

"Ohhhhhh I can stand outside a mosque an burn the Quran" I mean fcuk me, is that peoples idea of a living and a good time? Absolutely not, its "I can be offensive to people anymore that I enjoy being offensive towards"..............Its as plain and simple as that.

You have to go a long way out of your normal life for this to even be a thing.........what a waste of a life that must be
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I’ve heard Salah be called Ham Salad.. the guy who called him it didn’t even realise the ham part was a. Negative and just liked it. He also used to call Heskey, Hemel Hempstead which I always liked
 
Silly McSilly Face said:
The highest risk group for being douchebags are your unaccompanied young males from countries like Iran and Afghanistan, high in crime and high in terrorism. if your measures are successfully reducing the numbers of lower risk groups, I.e. families, those more likely to be genuinely refugees and seeing increasing numbers of the highest risk groups, your measures are b*llsh*t.
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Thanks for those figures.

So because the latest percentage you give are reporting
children arriving has reduced to 10/100 from 16/100 (and that's literally based on just 7 months of data).... you're saying everything thats being done is failing? And your measures are flimflam?
 
Silly McSilly Face said:
Ive literally said there would be a case for arresting all of them simply for protesting a mosque because how isnt that inciting hatred of a religion but saying "i love bacon" tips the scales into crime. On the other side you've got people saying that people shouldn't be arrested for saying they support Palestine action....well the law says they should. But the law also says people have the right to protest ....and the policing of where that line gets crossed is a sh*tshow of a job that i certainly wouldnt want to do.
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The issue is that you are assuming that he was arrested for saying Bacon. When you don't actually know that. He was probably arrested for hurling abuse generally. There's eff all context in the article.
 
ricky2tricky4city said:
Thanks for those figures.

So because the latest percentage you give are reporting
children arriving has reduced to 10/100 from 16/100 (and that's literally based on just 7 months of data).... you're saying everything thats being done is failing? And your measures are flimflam?
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I don't know what is happening on the ground. I'm speculating. But I don't think my speculation is wild, let's put it that way. Stuff like the 1 in 1 out deal with France will be a deterrent for genuine refugees because fundamentally the deal is that both the UK and France formally acknowledge under international law that as France is a "safe 3rd country" there is no reason why a legitimate refugee should make the journey from France to the UK and so they'll be returned. In exchange for France taking small boat crossers back we have to take a refugee in France that hasn't attempted the crossing. So the incentive for a genuine refugee to make the crossing is pretty low. The incentive for a douchebag to make the crossing is still pretty high as they never intended to really apply for asylum other than as a means to stall and obfuscate while slinking off into the underground economy....
 
https://twitter.com/x/status/1958991140440395894

My GHod the levels of cringe in this.

"you are one mistake away from prison" Ermmmmmmmmmm well yeh

"what if you say something in the pub with your mates and get overheard" well try not being a racist in public, thats really not hard

The woman pleaded guilty to a tweet that concluded "if that makes me racist so be it"...........

Jesus the benchmark for being a decent human in this world is on the floor
 
Grays_1890 said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1958991140440395894

My GHod the levels of cringe in this.

"you are one mistake away from prison" Ermmmmmmmmmm well yeh

"what if you say something in the pub with your mates and get overheard" well try not being a racist in public, thats really not hard

The woman pleaded guilty to a tweet that concluded "if that makes me racist so be it"...........

Jesus the benchmark for being a decent human in this world is on the floor
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Publishing incitement to racial hated is a very clear line that normal people don't accidently cross
 
Grays_1890 said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1958991140440395894

My GHod the levels of cringe in this.

"you are one mistake away from prison" Ermmmmmmmmmm well yeh

"what if you say something in the pub with your mates and get overheard" well try not being a racist in public, thats really not hard

The woman pleaded guilty to a tweet that concluded "if that makes me racist so be it"...........

Jesus the benchmark for being a decent human in this world is on the floor
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That wasn't the tweet that got her convicted. She called for people to set fire to hotels housing asylum seekers. That's what got her convicted.
 
Grays_1890 said:
I didn't say it was, I said concluded with, which she did in subsequent tweets

She is a scumbag, the end
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Humans are more complicated than that. They can do very bad things and make mistakes and not be scumbags. Also, people i know to be scumbags can be capable of kindness, generosity and good humour.

I'll give you a real life example that I've dealt with relatively recently.
- Bloke is an investment advisor.
- Bloke's wife is diagnosed with cancer.
- there's a specialist treatment available for this cancer but the NHS are not willing to fund it.
- Bloke pays for the treatment privately. He ends up racking up a load of debt.
- He ends up taking money off clients he states will be invested and then uses the money to pay off his debts and fund further cancer treatment.
- He ends up developing a sophisticated ponzi scheme to pay for his wife's cancer treatment.
- He's in prison now on multiple counts of fraud and money laundering.

Is he a scumbag?
 
Silly McSilly Face said:
Humans are more complicated than that. They can do very bad things and make mistakes and not be scumbags. Also, people i know to be scumbags can be capable of kindness, generosity and good humour.

I'll give you a real life example that I've dealt with relatively recently.
- Bloke is an investment advisor.
- Bloke's wife is diagnosed with cancer.
- there's a specialist treatment available for this cancer but the NHS are not willing to fund it.
- Bloke pays for the treatment privately. He ends up racking up a load of debt.
- He ends up taking money off clients he states will be invested and then uses the money to pay off his debts and fund further cancer treatment.
- He ends up developing a sophisticated ponzi scheme to pay for his wife's cancer treatment.
- He's in prison now on multiple counts of fraud and money laundering.

Is he a scumbag?
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Yep he is....

BTW she is now on a media tour doubling down on what she did, rather than saying "yeh maybe I shouldn't have said that" so yeh, absolute scumbag.
 
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Grays_1890 said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1958991140440395894

My GHod the levels of cringe in this.

"you are one mistake away from prison" Ermmmmmmmmmm well yeh

"what if you say something in the pub with your mates and get overheard" well try not being a racist in public, thats really not hard

The woman pleaded guilty to a tweet that concluded "if that makes me racist so be it"...........

Jesus the benchmark for being a decent human in this world is on the floor
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"Why can't we just wish everybody well....."

Erm...... what were you jailed for again?
 
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